Comments on: Prologue: Why I Went To “Love Won Out” http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 25 May 2013 02:47:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-121992 Timothy Kincaid Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:29:38 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-121992 Paul No breakup is happy, so let me wish you peace. I recommend that you contact the <a>href="http://www.straightspouse.org/home.php"</I>Straight Spouse Network</a>, an organization for people like yourself. You'll find them to have resources and perspective that is less focused on "the gay agenda" and more interested in helping you cope. But I'd like to address one of your phrases. You speak of coming out - but not what from. Yes, I know that "the gay lifestyle" is the answer, but I don't know what that is. Exodus is useful for same-sex attracted Christians who seek life-long celibacy. But I'm not sure that equates to coming out of something. You are a heterosexual who is now single and, assuming that you hold conservative Christian views about sex are not now engaging in sex. Have you left the heterosexual lifestyle? I think what you mean by "homosexual lifestyle" is a belief that there is nothing inherently wrong with being gay. That is the only distinction between gay and ex-gay that I can see. Paul

No breakup is happy, so let me wish you peace. I recommend that you contact the href=”http://www.straightspouse.org/home.php”Straight Spouse Network, an organization for people like yourself. You’ll find them to have resources and perspective that is less focused on “the gay agenda” and more interested in helping you cope.

But I’d like to address one of your phrases. You speak of coming out – but not what from. Yes, I know that “the gay lifestyle” is the answer, but I don’t know what that is.

Exodus is useful for same-sex attracted Christians who seek life-long celibacy. But I’m not sure that equates to coming out of something.

You are a heterosexual who is now single and, assuming that you hold conservative Christian views about sex are not now engaging in sex. Have you left the heterosexual lifestyle?

I think what you mean by “homosexual lifestyle” is a belief that there is nothing inherently wrong with being gay. That is the only distinction between gay and ex-gay that I can see.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-121950 Priya Lynn Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:47:58 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-121950 Paul no gay person wants to change their orientation for personal reasons, they want to do it to avoid the discrimination of society and the eternal torture they're told is waiting for them if they don't. Exodus promotes this discrimination and spiritutal torture, they are not the good guys. Exodus is the guy poking you with the diseased needle so he can sell you the cure. Paul no gay person wants to change their orientation for personal reasons, they want to do it to avoid the discrimination of society and the eternal torture they’re told is waiting for them if they don’t. Exodus promotes this discrimination and spiritutal torture, they are not the good guys. Exodus is the guy poking you with the diseased needle so he can sell you the cure.

]]> By: Paul http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-121948 Paul Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:31:35 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-121948 I am so glad that you shared compassion for Exodus international. I am a soon to be x of a gay female spouse. I have worked with an Exodus International pastor for several months in order to sort out my emotions. I have been appauled at how gay organizations on the web trash this compassionate organization. Gay people have the right to "come out" if they chose and Exodus is out there to help them. I am very amazed at the fact that gays are so eager to promote acceptance, but are so non accepting to those who assist people who want out. Exodus is a very compassionate loving organization, its too bad that the gay adgenda has to make them look like the enemy. I am so glad that you shared compassion for Exodus international. I am a soon to be x of a gay female spouse. I have worked with an Exodus International pastor for several months in order to sort out my emotions. I have been appauled at how gay organizations on the web trash this compassionate organization. Gay people have the right to “come out” if they chose and Exodus is out there to help them. I am very amazed at the fact that gays are so eager to promote acceptance, but are so non accepting to those who assist people who want out. Exodus is a very compassionate loving organization, its too bad that the gay adgenda has to make them look like the enemy.

]]> By: ricky lee http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-120685 ricky lee Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:30:30 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-120685 Jim, You come across as an elitest with unrealistic expectations of people. Thanks for making gays look like aloof democrats! I hope your poor writing and cheesy articles get you what you want out of life. oh, and nice that you also started name-calling. That will win you the suppoort you need! PAleeze Jim, You come across as an elitest with unrealistic expectations of people. Thanks for making gays look like aloof democrats! I hope your poor writing and cheesy articles get you what you want out of life. oh, and nice that you also started name-calling. That will win you the suppoort you need! PAleeze

]]> By: You can’t be cured when you’re not ill | Edinburgh Eye http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-120101 You can’t be cured when you’re not ill | Edinburgh Eye Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:01:09 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-120101 [...] Individuals and groups who claim they can cure a person of being gay are either bigots or frauds or, quite possibly, both. [...] [...] Individuals and groups who claim they can cure a person of being gay are either bigots or frauds or, quite possibly, both. [...]

]]> By: What to expect from the anti-gay marriage brigade | Jane Carnall | pro-blogger http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-111319 What to expect from the anti-gay marriage brigade | Jane Carnall | pro-blogger Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:38:34 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-111319 [...] chestnut is a perennial favourite. What would a GCSE in homosexuality look like? There’s a theory current in some US evangelical circles that the only way someone “becomes” gay is if they’re taught to be gay by the gay [...] [...] chestnut is a perennial favourite. What would a GCSE in homosexuality look like? There’s a theory current in some US evangelical circles that the only way someone “becomes” gay is if they’re taught to be gay by the gay [...]

]]> By: What to expect from the anti-gay marriage brigade | Jane Carnall | Live The Good Life http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-111316 What to expect from the anti-gay marriage brigade | Jane Carnall | Live The Good Life Sun, 04 Dec 2011 22:31:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-111316 [...] chestnut is a perennial favourite. What would a GCSE in homosexuality look like? There’s a theory current in some US evangelical circles that the only way someone “becomes” gay is if they’re taught to be gay by the gay [...] [...] chestnut is a perennial favourite. What would a GCSE in homosexuality look like? There’s a theory current in some US evangelical circles that the only way someone “becomes” gay is if they’re taught to be gay by the gay [...]

]]> By: tips about golf » Box Turtle Bulletin http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-110817 tips about golf » Box Turtle Bulletin Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:24:36 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-110817 [...] Prologue: Why I Went To “Love Won Out” Part 1: What’s Love Got To Do With it? Part 2: Parents Struggle With “no Exceptions” Part 3: A Whole New Dialect Part 4: it Depends on how The Meaning of the Word “Change” Changes Part 5: A Candid Explanation for “Change” [...] [...] Prologue: Why I Went To “Love Won Out” Part 1: What’s Love Got To Do With it? Part 2: Parents Struggle With “no Exceptions” Part 3: A Whole New Dialect Part 4: it Depends on how The Meaning of the Word “Change” Changes Part 5: A Candid Explanation for “Change” [...]

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-98280 Timothy Kincaid Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:25:45 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-98280 Mary, Have a great party!! And I'll be glad to discuss this later if you like. Mary,

Have a great party!! And I’ll be glad to discuss this later if you like.

]]> By: Mary Southard http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220/comment-page-1#comment-98279 Mary Southard Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:22:12 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/12/220#comment-98279 Timothy, You seem like an intelligent and reasonable guy. You raise some interesting points about the Bible that have piqued my curiosity. And I truly might like to have a discussion about them even though I wasn't looking for it! I may pick up with this later, but my kids are having a Harry Potter party for the premier tonight and their guests will be coming in 30 minutes. Thanks for conversing before the world. Most Sincerely, Mary Southard Timothy,

You seem like an intelligent and reasonable guy. You raise some interesting points about the Bible that have piqued my curiosity. And I truly might like to have a discussion about them even though I wasn’t looking for it! I may pick up with this later, but my kids are having a Harry Potter party for the premier tonight and their guests will be coming in 30 minutes.

Thanks for conversing before the world.
Most Sincerely,
Mary Southard

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