Comments on: Part 2: “Love Won Out” — Parents Struggle With “No Exceptions” http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:33:49 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: A Gay Blogger Undercover At “Love Won Out” « Camels With Hammers http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-51307 A Gay Blogger Undercover At “Love Won Out” « Camels With Hammers Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:43:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-51307 [...] cruel and false guilt irresponsibly induced in these poor parents by this remark pales compares to what they were later encouraged to fear about the other source of homosexuality in both their sons and their daughters: I can draw anecdotally from having been a part of an Exodus member ministry [...] [...] cruel and false guilt irresponsibly induced in these poor parents by this remark pales compares to what they were later encouraged to fear about the other source of homosexuality in both their sons and their daughters: I can draw anecdotally from having been a part of an Exodus member ministry [...]

]]> By: brian dean http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-42174 brian dean Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:06:50 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-42174 Hi, I listened to Mellissa Fryrears testimony on the tv, and I found it to be a beautiful thing. I came through a war situation,and was very tough emotionally, culdnt really express my emotions because of this, and my marriage suffered.I couldnt really emotionally connect with my wife, and she formed an unhealthy relationship with another woman because of it. Mellissas testimony really brought it home to me that instead of blameng my wife for everything, i should have also looked at my own fault. Yes she was srong to do what she did, but I was srong as well. Id really love to tell mellissa that I love Jesus Christ dearly, and she has brought real healing to my life, of course I dont condone practising gay activity in church, but I know that Jesus wants a loving relationship with everyone, I understand that now, and instead of judging my wife I should have won her over with love and kindness. It ruined my marriage, but it has all worked for the good of me, because I really love Jesus Christ, and he knows my heart. So Mellissa, I wnat you to know that your testimony was the bravest testimony I have ever heard, I wept real tears and wept along with you, I know that you are sincere in your walk, and Im very sorry that I mistrusted ex gay people for years, but I dont mistrust you, by the way Im ginger , 5 10 good looking, and would date you anytime girl, because you are beautiful on the outside, but more importantly, because of Jesus Christ you are beautiful on the inside as well, Gods love sister, I couldnt find you on the web, so I hope you can get this, keep up the good work sister, and know that you have healed me of something and brought me closer to Jesus Christ. Hi, I listened to Mellissa Fryrears testimony on the tv, and I found it to be a beautiful thing. I came through a war situation,and was very tough emotionally, culdnt really express my emotions because of this, and my marriage suffered.I couldnt really emotionally connect with my wife, and she formed an unhealthy relationship with another woman because of it. Mellissas testimony really brought it home to me that instead of blameng my wife for everything, i should have also looked at my own fault. Yes she was srong to do what she did, but I was srong as well. Id really love to tell mellissa that I love Jesus Christ dearly, and she has brought real healing to my life, of course I dont condone practising gay activity in church, but I know that Jesus wants a loving relationship with everyone, I understand that now, and instead of judging my wife I should have won her over with love and kindness. It ruined my marriage, but it has all worked for the good of me, because I really love Jesus Christ, and he knows my heart. So Mellissa, I wnat you to know that your testimony was the bravest testimony I have ever heard, I wept real tears and wept along with you, I know that you are sincere in your walk, and Im very sorry that I mistrusted ex gay people for years, but I dont mistrust you, by the way Im ginger , 5 10 good looking, and would date you anytime girl, because you are beautiful on the outside, but more importantly, because of Jesus Christ you are beautiful on the inside as well,
Gods love sister, I couldnt find you on the web, so I hope you can get this, keep up the good work sister, and know that you have healed me of something and brought me closer to Jesus Christ.

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-29181 Timothy Kincaid Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:18:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-29181 Karen, Bless you. You are a holiday treat. Karen,

Bless you. You are a holiday treat.

]]> By: Karen http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-29120 Karen Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:49:11 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-29120 I am the mother of a gay son. Why can't parents just accept that their son/daughter is gay? My son (who is the youngest of 5 sons) is still the same person he was before I knew he was gay. I don't feel guilty in the slightest and my son was NEVER molested as a child! It really makes me angry that parents need to find a reason for their childs sexuality - as long as your son/daughter is HAPPY - who cares about the 'WHY'? I am the mother of a gay son. Why can’t parents just accept that their son/daughter is gay?

My son (who is the youngest of 5 sons) is still the same person he was before I knew he was gay.

I don’t feel guilty in the slightest and my son was NEVER molested as a child!

It really makes me angry that parents need to find a reason for their childs sexuality – as long as your son/daughter is HAPPY – who cares about the ‘WHY’?

]]> By: Orson Scott Card: homophobic Humpty Dumpty at Feminist SF - The Blog! http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-15318 Orson Scott Card: homophobic Humpty Dumpty at Feminist SF - The Blog! Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:51:59 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-15318 [...] at the parents of LGB children by Exodus International/Focus on the Family: Jim Burroway says (February 2007) that at an ex-gay conference Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, president of the National Association for [...] [...] at the parents of LGB children by Exodus International/Focus on the Family: Jim Burroway says (February 2007) that at an ex-gay conference Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, president of the National Association for [...]

]]> By: Truth Wins Out - Advocate Feature On ‘Ex-Gays’ Way Off The Mark http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-10973 Truth Wins Out - Advocate Feature On ‘Ex-Gays’ Way Off The Mark Fri, 16 May 2008 18:08:36 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-10973 [...] whose lesbian daughters just came out that she never met a lesbian that was not sexually abused. Fryrear is a con artist and an abusive person who pays her bills by lying about lesbianism. I’m sure there [...] [...] whose lesbian daughters just came out that she never met a lesbian that was not sexually abused. Fryrear is a con artist and an abusive person who pays her bills by lying about lesbianism. I’m sure there [...]

]]> By: anon http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-8342 anon Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:18:59 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-8342 Thank you so much for this post. My parents have been to several Love Won Out conferences over the last 10 years, have been in personal contact with Melissa Fryear and other ex-lesbians to try to understand me and their role, and financially support ex-gay ministries. When I came out, every man in my life was put under suspicion of sexually abusing me. My brother. My ex-boyfriends. Even my dad. The ex-gay ministries destroy more than the gay person's life, they destroy entire families because they are premised on needing to find someone to blame for homosexuality. How about "blaming" God? He seems like the most likely culprit for "causing" my homosexuality. Also, if every woman who has been sexually abused was a lesbian, there would be a whole heck of a lot more lesbians. 38% of girls in America are sexually abused before the age of 18: http://www.womenofsubstance.org/sexabuse.htm. How about spending resources on this horrific social problem instead of picking on innocent gay people! Thank you so much for this post. My parents have been to several Love Won Out conferences over the last 10 years, have been in personal contact with Melissa Fryear and other ex-lesbians to try to understand me and their role, and financially support ex-gay ministries. When I came out, every man in my life was put under suspicion of sexually abusing me. My brother. My ex-boyfriends. Even my dad. The ex-gay ministries destroy more than the gay person’s life, they destroy entire families because they are premised on needing to find someone to blame for homosexuality. How about “blaming” God? He seems like the most likely culprit for “causing” my homosexuality.

Also, if every woman who has been sexually abused was a lesbian, there would be a whole heck of a lot more lesbians. 38% of girls in America are sexually abused before the age of 18: http://www.womenofsubstance.org/sexabuse.htm.

How about spending resources on this horrific social problem instead of picking on innocent gay people!

]]> By: Truth Wins Out http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-7122 Truth Wins Out Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:02:24 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-7122 [...] blaming innocent parents for their child’s sexual orientation [...] [...] blaming innocent parents for their child’s sexual orientation [...]

]]> By: grantdale http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-5069 grantdale Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:50:56 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-5069 Hmm, odd. Sorry about that, what ever it is. http://dbem.ws/Exotic%20Becomes%20Erotic.pdf all his pubs are at http://dbem.ws/pubs.html (The EBE paper is from 1996, orig publ in Psychological Review, 103, 320-335.) Hmm, odd. Sorry about that, what ever it is.

http://dbem.ws/Exotic%20Becomes%20Erotic.pdf

all his pubs are at http://dbem.ws/pubs.html

(The EBE paper is from 1996, orig publ in Psychological Review, 103, 320-335.)

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228/comment-page-1#comment-5068 Timothy Kincaid Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:31:05 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/02/22/228#comment-5068 grantdale, link [1] isn't working for me grantdale,

link [1] isn’t working for me

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