Comments on: Mohler’s “Cure” For Gay Babies: A Follow Up http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/16/249 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sun, 19 May 2013 14:07:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Samkol http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/16/249/comment-page-1#comment-1046 Samkol Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:25:28 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/16/249#comment-1046 I have a nephew, 19 years old. He become a gay. So i think it's best if any Dr. can find a solution or create a medcine to cure this bad situation. I hope this can happen... I have a nephew, 19 years old. He become a gay. So i think it’s best if any Dr. can find a solution or create a medcine to cure this bad situation. I hope this can happen…

]]> By: Howller http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/16/249/comment-page-1#comment-414 Howller Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:16:09 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/16/249#comment-414 According to historians, the ancient worldview, in which the biblical writings are rooted, know no such concept as sexual orientation. Let's be realistic. The idea of "sexual orientation" is a relatively recent development. In fact, it is only in the past few decades that sexual orientation, as a fundamental characteristic of human existence, has been generally embraced by the western vernacular. It is not surprising to observe that those persons and groups who are deeply rooted in biblical thought are reluctant to accept the modern understanding of homosexuality. But I like to see Mohler admit that ". . .sexual orientation . . . is generally understood within the culture." According to historians, the ancient worldview, in which the biblical writings are rooted, know no such concept as sexual orientation. Let’s be realistic. The idea of “sexual orientation” is a relatively recent development. In fact, it is only in the past few decades that sexual orientation, as a fundamental characteristic of human existence, has been generally embraced by the western vernacular. It is not surprising to observe that those persons and groups who are deeply rooted in biblical thought are reluctant to accept the modern understanding of homosexuality.

But I like to see Mohler admit that “. . .sexual orientation . . . is generally understood within the culture.”

]]> By: Lynn David http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/16/249/comment-page-1#comment-413 Lynn David Sat, 17 Mar 2007 06:04:05 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/03/16/249#comment-413 You mentioned in the other post on Mohler his derisive nature towards the Roman Catholic Church. Most notably the Catholic Church seems to hang onto a psychological genesis to homosexuality. In the Catholic Catechism it specifically says, <em>"Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained"</em> (see: <a href-"http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm#2357" rel="nofollow">2357-2359</a>). So I don't know what the Roman Catholic Church would do if a biological source were found for one's personality, more precisely sexual orientation. The whole idea that a small segment of the human population should be astigmatized by a curse from a god with an inborn situational sin which strikes at the heart of what it means to be human, to intimately share your life, is the most stupid thing a man like Mohler can ever come up with (but that's religion for you). Someday people will have to face it and realize that straight people ('cept maybe St Paul) wrote the "holy" books and thus the full spectrum of humanity waa not therein recorded. I'll have to admit also that bronze-age man had a poor way of reconciling homosexuality with their developing religious thought (or simply as man's knowledge of his world and himself grew). The <em>qadesh</em>, temple prostitutes (incorrectly a.k.a. the sodomites of 1 Kings), of the Middle Eastern (Canaanite) temples promoted promescuity and was certainly not a way man should have handled homosexuality. The backlash against it produced the institutionalized homophobia of the Abrahamic religions. However, go back several thousand years in the Middle East and homosexuality was probably managed in tribes similar to that of what was encountered here in Native American tribes. However, listen to Native American tribal voices today and you realize how easily the Christian religion has elicited a homophobic bigotry in that community which their traditions did not engender. I find that to be quite sad. It shows up how easily it is for humans to adopt a hatred of that which they do not understand. And religion permits it under the guise of love. Eh.... you got me going, Jim. You mentioned in the other post on Mohler his derisive nature towards the Roman Catholic Church. Most notably the Catholic Church seems to hang onto a psychological genesis to homosexuality. In the Catholic Catechism it specifically says, “Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained” (see: 2357-2359). So I don’t know what the Roman Catholic Church would do if a biological source were found for one’s personality, more precisely sexual orientation.

The whole idea that a small segment of the human population should be astigmatized by a curse from a god with an inborn situational sin which strikes at the heart of what it means to be human, to intimately share your life, is the most stupid thing a man like Mohler can ever come up with (but that’s religion for you). Someday people will have to face it and realize that straight people (‘cept maybe St Paul) wrote the “holy” books and thus the full spectrum of humanity waa not therein recorded.

I’ll have to admit also that bronze-age man had a poor way of reconciling homosexuality with their developing religious thought (or simply as man’s knowledge of his world and himself grew). The qadesh, temple prostitutes (incorrectly a.k.a. the sodomites of 1 Kings), of the Middle Eastern (Canaanite) temples promoted promescuity and was certainly not a way man should have handled homosexuality. The backlash against it produced the institutionalized homophobia of the Abrahamic religions.

However, go back several thousand years in the Middle East and homosexuality was probably managed in tribes similar to that of what was encountered here in Native American tribes. However, listen to Native American tribal voices today and you realize how easily the Christian religion has elicited a homophobic bigotry in that community which their traditions did not engender. I find that to be quite sad. It shows up how easily it is for humans to adopt a hatred of that which they do not understand. And religion permits it under the guise of love.

Eh…. you got me going, Jim.

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