Comments on: A Brutal Beating Death In Indiana http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:03:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: it stinks http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321/comment-page-1#comment-1163 it stinks Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:39:25 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321#comment-1163 Now we find out that not only did the deputy coroner not smell the body, but a local police officer who searched the Gray home two days before Hall was discovered there also did not smell the body and did not notice any blood stains. http://www.bloomingtonalternative.com/content/8488 Now we find out that not only did the deputy coroner not smell the body, but a local police officer who searched the Gray home two days before Hall was discovered there also did not smell the body and did not notice any blood stains.
http://www.bloomingtonalternative.com/content/8488

]]> By: it stinks http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321/comment-page-1#comment-210 it stinks Sat, 05 May 2007 02:37:07 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321#comment-210 I agree, smalltown, there is more here stinking than a dead corpse. Did you also know that Gray is a reserve deputy with the Jackson County Sheriff's department? Apparantly Gray is not coaching his son well. They could have simply left the body in the ditch rather than going back to retrieve it. Then investigators could simply claim the death was accidental, and the victim wandered there on his own. If someone MUST be blamed, as you mentioned a cigarette butt tossed in the general vicinity has proven effective in the past. I agree, smalltown, there is more here stinking than a dead corpse. Did you also know that Gray is a reserve deputy with the Jackson County Sheriff’s department? Apparantly Gray is not coaching his son well. They could have simply left the body in the ditch rather than going back to retrieve it. Then investigators could simply claim the death was accidental, and the victim wandered there on his own. If someone MUST be blamed, as you mentioned a cigarette butt tossed in the general vicinity has proven effective in the past.

]]> By: smalltown IN http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321/comment-page-1#comment-208 smalltown IN Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:56:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321#comment-208 Well, this should have our "good old boys" in the justice system jumping for joy. If the gay community makes a fuss over the death of Hall portraying it as a hate crime, it will take the focus off the real problem in this area. The fact is, Garrett Gray is the son of Deputy Coroner, Terry Gray. Remember him - he was the spokeperson for the Neace family when their daughter Katie Collman was found murdered. These three boys beat Aaron Hall inside the Gray home. Furthermore, after death, a body will start to putrefy within three days. Hall's body (dead 10 DAYS) was found inside Terry Gray's garage. As long as the crime is played out as a hate crime, it will take people's minds off the fact that the Deputy Coroner did not notice the stench of Hall's body within his own garage. Nor did he notice any blood splatter from the beating within his own home. We'll just assume that three drunk boys cleaned up so well that it was undetectable. It will come as no surprise if we soon find that the three boys made a false confession. Maybe some fabricated forensic evidence and a cigarette butt can point the crime in a new direction. Who knows, it's worked before. Well, this should have our “good old boys” in the justice system jumping for joy. If the gay community makes a fuss over the death of Hall portraying it as a hate crime, it will take the focus off the real problem in this area.
The fact is, Garrett Gray is the son of Deputy Coroner, Terry Gray. Remember him – he was the spokeperson for the Neace family when their daughter Katie Collman was found murdered. These three boys beat Aaron Hall inside the Gray home.
Furthermore, after death, a body will start to putrefy within three days. Hall’s body (dead 10 DAYS) was found inside Terry Gray’s garage.
As long as the crime is played out as a hate crime, it will take people’s minds off the fact that the Deputy Coroner did not notice the stench of Hall’s body within his own garage. Nor did he notice any blood splatter from the beating within his own home. We’ll just assume that three drunk boys cleaned up so well that it was undetectable.
It will come as no surprise if we soon find that the three boys made a false confession. Maybe some fabricated forensic evidence and a cigarette butt can point the crime in a new direction. Who knows, it’s worked before.

]]> By: Lynn David http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321/comment-page-1#comment-207 Lynn David Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:06:24 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321#comment-207 The way I read one of the first reports from a Indy TV station it seemed that Hall was accusing King of being gay. Thus Hall who died was just as homophobically bigoted as the three who killed him. Some people want to compare the situation to that of Matthew Shepard. A group turning on a person out of fear of being perceived as being gay. I still don't get it. Yes, this was a crime motivated out of hatred of gay people, but considering that Hall was likely a bigot also, it seems to me that alchohol was more to blame. I just don't see this as a crime to use to show the need for hate crime legislation. If I were an Indiana prosecutor and Indiana had such hate-crime laws (which barely even see the light of day in our legislature), I would not prosecute the case as a hate crime. Well, ok... that's the way I would have seen it considering the info from one report which said that Hall accused King of being gay. Now a Hoosier blogger, <a href="http://www.shakesville.com/2007/04/homophobic_hatred_in_indiana_l.php" rel="nofollow">Melissa McEwan</a>, reports that <a href="http://www.whas11.com/topstories/stories/042507whasmjdTopAaronHallHomicide.928de4b.html" rel="nofollow">WHAS-TV</a> report that police say “<i>Hall grabbed one of the suspects, Coleman King, in his private area and asked for oral sex.</i>” So that... hell, what aware gay man would do that among three other guys... espescially in Indiana... especially in small-town Indiana (nearby a church [Old Paths Baptist Church] which appeared to <a href="http://www.fhcglobal.org/InTheNews_2007_02_22_Democrat.html rel="nofollow">try to outdo Phelps in bigotry</a> a few years ago)? Eh.... that's Indiana for you.... death and the taxes are next. A gay farm owner can't get anywhere. The way I read one of the first reports from a Indy TV station it seemed that Hall was accusing King of being gay. Thus Hall who died was just as homophobically bigoted as the three who killed him. Some people want to compare the situation to that of Matthew Shepard. A group turning on a person out of fear of being perceived as being gay. I still don’t get it. Yes, this was a crime motivated out of hatred of gay people, but considering that Hall was likely a bigot also, it seems to me that alchohol was more to blame.

I just don’t see this as a crime to use to show the need for hate crime legislation. If I were an Indiana prosecutor and Indiana had such hate-crime laws (which barely even see the light of day in our legislature), I would not prosecute the case as a hate crime.

Well, ok… that’s the way I would have seen it considering the info from one report which said that Hall accused King of being gay. Now a Hoosier blogger, Melissa McEwan, reports that WHAS-TV report that police say “Hall grabbed one of the suspects, Coleman King, in his private area and asked for oral sex.” So that… hell, what aware gay man would do that among three other guys… espescially in Indiana… especially in small-town Indiana (nearby a church [Old Paths Baptist Church] which appeared to try to outdo Phelps in bigotry a few years ago)?

Eh…. that’s Indiana for you…. death and the taxes are next. A gay farm owner can’t get anywhere.

]]> By: Emproph http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321/comment-page-1#comment-206 Emproph Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:10:21 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321#comment-206 Oh come hither now Timothy. ;-) They always support the tolerance of their intolerance.. Oh come hither now Timothy. ;-)

They always support the tolerance of their intolerance..

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321/comment-page-1#comment-205 Timothy Kincaid Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:30:36 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321#comment-205 If I read this right the victim wasn't even gay. He teased one of the others saying that he was... and was beaten to death for his teasing. And the anti-gays oppose teaching tolerance. If I read this right the victim wasn’t even gay. He teased one of the others saying that he was… and was beaten to death for his teasing.

And the anti-gays oppose teaching tolerance.

]]> By: it stinks http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321/comment-page-1#comment-209 it stinks Mon, 05 Mar 2007 02:37:51 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/04/27/321#comment-209 I agree, smalltown, there is more here stinking than a dead corpse. Did you also know that Gray is a reserve deputy with the Jackson County Sheriff's department? Apparantly Gray is not coaching his son well. They could have simply left the body in the ditch rather than going back to retrieve it. Then investigators could simply claim the death was accidental, and the victim wandered there on his own. If someone MUST be blamed, as you mentioned a cigarette butt tossed in the general vicinity has proven effective in the past. I agree, smalltown, there is more here stinking than a dead corpse. Did you also know that Gray is a reserve deputy with the Jackson County Sheriff’s department? Apparantly Gray is not coaching his son well. They could have simply left the body in the ditch rather than going back to retrieve it. Then investigators could simply claim the death was accidental, and the victim wandered there on his own. If someone MUST be blamed, as you mentioned a cigarette butt tossed in the general vicinity has proven effective in the past.

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