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	<title>Comments on: American Anti-Gay Extremists In Collusion With Riga Pride Opponents</title>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/01/261/comment-page-1#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hutch was my youth pastor when I was in high school in the early 1980s.  I can not believe this is the same man--he used to be about loving your neighbor and sharing Christ, and now he seems all about hate.  It&#039;s downright demonic.  Also, Redmond is in Washington State, not Oregon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hutch was my youth pastor when I was in high school in the early 1980s.  I can not believe this is the same man&#8211;he used to be about loving your neighbor and sharing Christ, and now he seems all about hate.  It&#8217;s downright demonic.  Also, Redmond is in Washington State, not Oregon.</p>
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		<title>By: The Story So Far&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hate</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/01/261/comment-page-1#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>The Story So Far&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here, via a Latvian group calling itself Defend The Family, is Scott Lively. He&#039;s delivering a lecture to this group on the dangers of the homosexual menace. Lively may already be known to some of you, as the holocaust-revisionist author of The Pink Swastika. As Jim Burroway says... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here, via a Latvian group calling itself Defend The Family, is Scott Lively. He&#8217;s delivering a lecture to this group on the dangers of the homosexual menace. Lively may already be known to some of you, as the holocaust-revisionist author of The Pink Swastika. As Jim Burroway says&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/01/261/comment-page-1#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the premise of the book. I don&#039;t blame you for being confused. Why neo-Nazi&#039;s find the arguments convincing is something you&#039;ll have to ask them. 

I suspect they may overlook the &quot;evil&quot; part and see &quot;homosexualism&quot; as the thing that infected Nazism early on and contributed towards its downfall. I don&#039;t know. Perhaps some of my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,021.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;neo-Nazi readers&lt;/a&gt; can answer this one for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the premise of the book. I don&#8217;t blame you for being confused. Why neo-Nazi&#8217;s find the arguments convincing is something you&#8217;ll have to ask them. </p>
<p>I suspect they may overlook the &#8220;evil&#8221; part and see &#8220;homosexualism&#8221; as the thing that infected Nazism early on and contributed towards its downfall. I don&#8217;t know. Perhaps some of my <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,021.htm" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">neo-Nazi readers</a> can answer this one for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Samie D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/01/261/comment-page-1#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Samie D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me if I&#039;m a bit confused. But doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;The Pink Swastika&lt;/i&gt; take the thesis that gays were responsible for and in control of the nazi party and that the nazi party was evil, ergo gays are evil? Why would European neo-nazis embrace a thesis that takes nazism&#039;s evilness as a premise?

Disclaimer, I haven&#039;t read the book myself, please correct me if I am mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me if I&#8217;m a bit confused. But doesn&#8217;t <i>The Pink Swastika</i> take the thesis that gays were responsible for and in control of the nazi party and that the nazi party was evil, ergo gays are evil? Why would European neo-nazis embrace a thesis that takes nazism&#8217;s evilness as a premise?</p>
<p>Disclaimer, I haven&#8217;t read the book myself, please correct me if I am mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/01/261/comment-page-1#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 05:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like Scott Lively&#039;s book &quot;The Pink Swastika&quot; is online here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc...ion_-_final.htm&lt;/a&gt;

Some interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Scott Lively&#8217;s book &#8220;The Pink Swastika&#8221; is online here:<br />
<a href="http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc" rel="nofollow">http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc</a>&#8230;ion_-_final.htm</p>
<p>Some interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/01/261/comment-page-1#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 04:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hutcherson’s a real piece of work. He has a sample sermon on the www.Florida4marriage.org site under the pastor’s resources section in which he references the Dutch study among others (*cough* Paul Cameron). No footnotes of course:

&lt;i&gt;and a Holland study has said 18 months is the average length of a homosexual relationship and within that time they will have 8 different partners.&lt;/b&gt; STD’s are 400 per cent higher among homosexuals than the national average of any other people group. Can this be good for our children?”&lt;/i&gt;

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Jim points out in “What the “Dutch Study” Really Says About Gay Couples”:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,003.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,003.htm&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;“We have a study population that was heavily weighted with HIV/AIDS patients, &lt;b&gt;excluded monogamous participants&lt;/b&gt;, was predominantly urban, and under the age of thirty. While this population was good for the purposes of the study, it was in no way representative of Amsterdam’s gay men, let alone gay men anywhere else.”&lt;/i&gt;

And:

&lt;i&gt;“And of course, to spotlight the anti-gay lobby&#039;s most glaring logical fallacy, I would like to point out that these “statistics” have nothing to do with lesbians at all.”&lt;/i&gt;

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I can see wanting to lie to your enemies, but what’s it say when you’re lying to you allies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hutcherson’s a real piece of work. He has a sample sermon on the <a href="http://www.Florida4marriage.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.Florida4marriage.org</a> site under the pastor’s resources section in which he references the Dutch study among others (*cough* Paul Cameron). No footnotes of course:</p>
<p><i>and a Holland study has said 18 months is the average length of a homosexual relationship and within that time they will have 8 different partners. STD’s are 400 per cent higher among homosexuals than the national average of any other people group. Can this be good for our children?”</i></p>
<p>___</p>
<p>Jim points out in “What the “Dutch Study” Really Says About Gay Couples”:<br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,003.htm" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,003.htm</a></p>
<p><i>“We have a study population that was heavily weighted with HIV/AIDS patients, <b>excluded monogamous participants</b>, was predominantly urban, and under the age of thirty. While this population was good for the purposes of the study, it was in no way representative of Amsterdam’s gay men, let alone gay men anywhere else.”</i></p>
<p>And:</p>
<p><i>“And of course, to spotlight the anti-gay lobby&#8217;s most glaring logical fallacy, I would like to point out that these “statistics” have nothing to do with lesbians at all.”</i></p>
<p>___</p>
<p>I can see wanting to lie to your enemies, but what’s it say when you’re lying to you allies?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/06/01/261/comment-page-1#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s that on your hands, Ken Hutcherson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s that on your hands, Ken Hutcherson?</p>
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