Your use of quotes around the terms gay and lesbian is deeply hurtful and quite neatly displays your agenda.

William, NYC

When Europeans first started settling in North America, the populations of Native Americans were decimated by diseases such as Small Pox which they had no immunity against. The “It’s punishment from God for their sins!” argument was used then as well.

Looks like there’s truth in the saying that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

The CDC does a very good job explaining the many factors contributing to the rise of syphilis. You don’t. That’s why my complaint concerning distortion rests with you, not the CDC.

I won’t be releasing Phillips subsequent comments because they merely continue along the same themes as those above. To do so will be to perpetuate an argument by exhaustion, not substance.

I use the term “argument by exhaustion” because I’ve seen this before. It’s another well established Cameron tactic going all the way back to his letters to the editor in the Nebraska Medical Journal in 1985-1986. The argument never ends, at least not until every other sane person merely gives up and walk away. I’m not interested in engaging in interminable discussions with someone who doesn’t exhibit reason or honesty.

There have been many other dissenting commentors on this site, and their comments are most welcome. The tone of the comments have been mostly civil, with a few exceptions. I’ll overlook exceptions; consistent patterns, I won’t.

If Phillips is not Paul Cameron, he is at least an excellent imitator and avid defender. If he wants a platform from which to spew, he can start one of his own (if he hasn’t already.) I see no reason to allow him to hijack this one.

And when Cameron (or “Phillips”) allows a free and open exchange of comments on his own site, I’ll allow him (or his clone) to resume commenting here.

Thanks for allowing my posts to show up.

You say my comment was off-topic, but your whole post is pretty much saying that the connection between HIV and gays is a myth. Well, we don’t really know whether ‘gays’ started the virus, but it’s pretty obvious its spread can be attributed to them, here in the U.S. anyway, as well as, like I said, virtually every other STD world wide.

I suggest you file a complaint to the CDC for attributing the rise of syphillis cases to ‘gays’ that year, as well as explain exactly what factors make the statistics misleading…

What do you mean his “portrayal” of how the Nazi’s delt with ‘gays’, he simply wrote what had been recorded. It was a history lesson that gave insight into ‘homosexual’ behavior, an article that was inlcuded in 1 of 8 issues that are released by FRI every year.

I trust you will allow this to be posted, as well as a comment that I will post soon-after this since you’ve accused me a making insubstantiated claims.

Jim, this is putting words in MacArthur’s mouth. He didn’t say that everything that goes wrong is the fault of lesbians, only that celebration of lesbianism is proof that something has gone wrong.

I think I see your point, although if I understand it correctly I don’t think I agree with it. Sure, it wouldn’t be everything that goes wrong. His statement is much more open ended.

It seems to me as I read it that should any calamity happen — “And God would be just in any calamity that he brought upon us” — one evidence for such “just-ness” would be lesbianism, or at least our “celebration” of it. And since the word “any” is open-ended, I used another open-ended term “whenever”. Because whenever something happens, you get to include it as part of any. To me at least, “whenever” is less absolute than “every time” (or “everything that goes wrong”, as you rephrased it), which I think more closely matches MacArthur’s not entirely absolute contention. Although I can understand that “whenever,” too, is pretty indistinct in meaning and can mean either “every time” or “any time.”

But then, as I sit here and re-read, “And God would be just in any calamity that he brought upon us,” the word seems to say, pick one calamity, any calamity… which begins to sound more absolute.

Or is there something else I’m missing?

You have found one lone study from a single STD clinic in Australia that applied a definition of WSW that is inconsistent. The letters to the editor that study generated are very instructive to the problems with that study. But of course, that’s no concern of yours, now is it?

Your contentions about the rates of Syphilis are misleading. There are several confounding cofactors which influence the statistics, including race (a very high rate among a subpopulation of African-Americans and hispanics) and the rural south.

But none of that is related to this thread, is it? If you have not done so, I also strongly urge you to re-read our comments policy. Because of your persistence in making unsubstantiated claims, of distorting the claims of others, and of changing the topic of a thread (this one, about “God’s wrath”) into a thread of unrelated complaints, I have placed your comments in moderation.

I am interested in learning, however, that since you say you’re not Paul Cameron, why you are so keen to parrot everything he says and defend everything he does. Do you too, agree with his portrayal for how the Nazi’s “dealt with the problem”? And does his manifesto match yours?

Be assured that your response to that question will be posted in full.

Try the 11th century. I think that’s probably closer.

This, unfortunately, is what you get when belief takes precedence over evidence.

Sorry Phillips, I’m not buying into that one bit.

“And don’t think “lesbians” are beyond negligible risk. They don’t seem to account for much of AIDS, but studies have shown that those engaging in WSW have a higher HIV rate, STD and STI rate, as well as are much higher risk takers – higher smoking, prostitution, pregnancy, abortion rates – than heterosexual women.”

This comment made me laugh. If you truely believe that lesbians have a higher risk of getting pregnant and getting an abortion over straight women then you seriously don’t know what a lesbian is.

Jim, this is putting words in MacArthur’s mouth. He didn’t say that everything that goes wrong is the fault of lesbians, only that celebration of lesbianism is proof that something has gone wrong.