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	<title>Comments on: Love In Action &#8220;Refuge&#8221; Youth Program Shut Down</title>
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		<title>By: This is just awful!</title>
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		<dc:creator>This is just awful!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was appalled almost six years ago when this story was news. That particular program has since been shut down although there are certainly others with the same awful mission.              Reply With Quote [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was appalled almost six years ago when this story was news. That particular program has since been shut down although there are certainly others with the same awful mission.              Reply With Quote [...]</p>
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		<title>By: steve j callahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve j callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a bisexual man. because of the stigma associated with anything queer in the late 50s and 60s i suffered being in the closet. when i was 21 i accepted who i was and a peace came over me. i met a wonderful women in 1967 we married, had two great children. i told her the first week we knew eachother i was bi. a marrage straight or gay should be a comitted relationship, ours was, we loved eachother and we both remained faithful. she died in feb 2007 and nomater what happens she will always be the great love of my life. i know she would not want me to be alone and although i am not looking for a relationship at this time and i have no idea if i ever will and i have no idea if it will be with a man or a women if it does. i am ok with myself and am abit sorry for sen craig and hope he can come to terms with his sexuality. once you accept who you are life become quite simpler and happier. sc in florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a bisexual man. because of the stigma associated with anything queer in the late 50s and 60s i suffered being in the closet. when i was 21 i accepted who i was and a peace came over me. i met a wonderful women in 1967 we married, had two great children. i told her the first week we knew eachother i was bi. a marrage straight or gay should be a comitted relationship, ours was, we loved eachother and we both remained faithful. she died in feb 2007 and nomater what happens she will always be the great love of my life. i know she would not want me to be alone and although i am not looking for a relationship at this time and i have no idea if i ever will and i have no idea if it will be with a man or a women if it does. i am ok with myself and am abit sorry for sen craig and hope he can come to terms with his sexuality. once you accept who you are life become quite simpler and happier. sc in florida</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/07/01/503/comment-page-1#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a client at Love In Action in 2005, during the time that Zach Stark and Lance Carrol were forced to be there. Both of those boys were intelligent,respectful and extremely gifted. I came to know them well and many of us cried when they left the program. It was my priviledge to know them and my heart went out to them because I knew they didn&#039;t want to be there.  I am relieved to know that L.I.A. has dissolved the &quot;refuge&quot; program. It is a sin to force anyone into any kind of religious &quot;reparative&quot; therapy, let alone impressionable teens who need understanding from their parents and not judgment. Both of those boys had a relationship with God by the way and knew Him very well; before arriving at L.I.A.&#039;s doorstep. I just hope that this experience hasn&#039;t given them the idea that God doesn&#039;t love them and accept them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a client at Love In Action in 2005, during the time that Zach Stark and Lance Carrol were forced to be there. Both of those boys were intelligent,respectful and extremely gifted. I came to know them well and many of us cried when they left the program. It was my priviledge to know them and my heart went out to them because I knew they didn&#8217;t want to be there.  I am relieved to know that L.I.A. has dissolved the &#8220;refuge&#8221; program. It is a sin to force anyone into any kind of religious &#8220;reparative&#8221; therapy, let alone impressionable teens who need understanding from their parents and not judgment. Both of those boys had a relationship with God by the way and knew Him very well; before arriving at L.I.A.&#8217;s doorstep. I just hope that this experience hasn&#8217;t given them the idea that God doesn&#8217;t love them and accept them.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news -- especially if Smid confirmed it.  

However, Love In Action &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loveinaction.org/default.aspx?pid=146&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;now offers&lt;/a&gt; a &quot;Family Freedom Four-Day Intensive&quot; for $2,000 and a &quot;Family Freedom Four-Day Intensive &lt;b&gt;with child&lt;/b&gt;&quot; for $3,000.  Interestingly, LIA has not reduced its pricing for the significantly shorter programs.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20060503194742/www.asafeplace.org/default.aspx?pid=7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In 2006&lt;/a&gt;, LIA priced the &quot;two-week commitment&quot; for $2,000 and the &quot;six-week commitment&quot; for $4,500.  

Maybe the homophobic parent market is not as lucrative as LIA had hoped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news &#8212; especially if Smid confirmed it.  </p>
<p>However, Love In Action <a href="http://www.loveinaction.org/default.aspx?pid=146" rel="nofollow">now offers</a> a &#8220;Family Freedom Four-Day Intensive&#8221; for $2,000 and a &#8220;Family Freedom Four-Day Intensive <b>with child</b>&#8221; for $3,000.  Interestingly, LIA has not reduced its pricing for the significantly shorter programs.  <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060503194742/www.asafeplace.org/default.aspx?pid=7" rel="nofollow">In 2006</a>, LIA priced the &#8220;two-week commitment&#8221; for $2,000 and the &#8220;six-week commitment&#8221; for $4,500.  </p>
<p>Maybe the homophobic parent market is not as lucrative as LIA had hoped.</p>
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		<title>By: A Stitch in Haste</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Stitch in Haste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ex-Gay &quot;Zach Camp&quot; Closed...&lt;/strong&gt;

Best broken link I&#039;ve seen in a while:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ex-Gay &#8220;Zach Camp&#8221; Closed&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Best broken link I&#8217;ve seen in a while:</p>
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