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	<title>Comments on: Is Exodus a Lobbyist Group?</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;replace the lies with truth&#8221; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seeing Right Through Exodus International&#8217;s &#8220;Allies, Too!&#8221; Campaign</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this.  If they really wanted to see us happy, or even not see us unhappy, why have they hired a political lobbyist to help insure we have no rights.   This is Exodus International, who has taken a public stance [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this.  If they really wanted to see us happy, or even not see us unhappy, why have they hired a political lobbyist to help insure we have no rights.   This is Exodus International, who has taken a public stance [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robguy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/07/624/comment-page-1#comment-1452</link>
		<dc:creator>Robguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if it would even matter under the current administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it would even matter under the current administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Indiana we have the &lt;b&gt;AFA of Indiana&lt;/b&gt; which has a separate &lt;b&gt;AFA of Indiana PAC&lt;/b&gt; as well.  And there have been times that the &lt;b&gt;AFA/IN&lt;/b&gt; has made an endorsement, but it is unclear if it is the &lt;b&gt;AFA/IN-PAC&lt;/b&gt; which made the endorsement or just the plain, ole &lt;b&gt;AFA/IN&lt;/b&gt;. Even if the &lt;b&gt;AFA/IN-PAC&lt;/b&gt; made the endorsement instead of its nonprofit sister, it is still a problem because a nonprofit 501(c)(3), unlike 501(c)(4) organizations, are not allowed to form political action committees under federal tax rules.

A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit corporation are sch organizations which are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.  But in Indiana the people behind the &lt;b&gt;AFA/IN&lt;/b&gt; have been getting away with it for years now.   The &lt;b&gt;AFA/IN-PAC&lt;/b&gt; has also been busy degrading democrats in Indiana [see: http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/04/afa-fails-truth-in-advertising-test.html }.   Now small groups such as these may be able to &lt;i&gt;get away with it&lt;/i&gt;.   But I doubt Exodus could.   

I wonder, hiring a lobbying firm like the Wabash Group seems to be a way of getting around the idea that they cannot form a PAC.   Not exactly the same structure but could have the same effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Indiana we have the <b>AFA of Indiana</b> which has a separate <b>AFA of Indiana PAC</b> as well.  And there have been times that the <b>AFA/IN</b> has made an endorsement, but it is unclear if it is the <b>AFA/IN-PAC</b> which made the endorsement or just the plain, ole <b>AFA/IN</b>. Even if the <b>AFA/IN-PAC</b> made the endorsement instead of its nonprofit sister, it is still a problem because a nonprofit 501(c)(3), unlike 501(c)(4) organizations, are not allowed to form political action committees under federal tax rules.</p>
<p>A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit corporation are sch organizations which are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.  But in Indiana the people behind the <b>AFA/IN</b> have been getting away with it for years now.   The <b>AFA/IN-PAC</b> has also been busy degrading democrats in Indiana [see: <a href="http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/04/afa-fails-truth-in-advertising-test.html" rel="nofollow">http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/04/afa-fails-truth-in-advertising-test.html</a> }.   Now small groups such as these may be able to <i>get away with it</i>.   But I doubt Exodus could.   </p>
<p>I wonder, hiring a lobbying firm like the Wabash Group seems to be a way of getting around the idea that they cannot form a PAC.   Not exactly the same structure but could have the same effect.</p>
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