Comments on: Ft. Lauderdale Doesn’t Want Your Tourist Dollars http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:09:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Emily K http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1949 Emily K Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:06:10 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1949 :-D :-D

]]> By: Jim Burroway http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1948 Jim Burroway Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:01:48 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1948 Emily, You're a pistol! We love you. Emily,

You’re a pistol! We love you.

]]> By: cowboy http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1930 cowboy Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:22:21 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1930 You may boycott those products Emily…but I hear from reliable sources…it was YOU who dressed as a purple Tinky-Winky at last year’s Halloween party. (tip of the hat) You may boycott those products Emily…but I hear from reliable sources…it was YOU who dressed as a purple Tinky-Winky at last year’s Halloween party.

(tip of the hat)

]]> By: Emily K http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1926 Emily K Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:12:40 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1926 "I just wonder where your mind is if whenever you see a shirtless man you immediately think about sex and only sex." OK, I'm sick of people putting words in my mouth. I'm going to do this one more time and request people read this whole way through. I clearly explained in my comments why having sexy ads on a political blog could, for some people, denigrate the credibility of the blog. Sex is used to advertise all sorts of products - nearly all of them having nothing to do with sex. I find no fault with this (although I admit I'm not a fan of any kind of exploitation.) I did not say RealJock was about sex. i did not say this blog is not serious. I did not say heterosexual blogs do not do the same thing. I did not even request that the ad be taken down or replaced- nor am I requesting it now. But you know what? Fine. Forget it. You guys win. I'm not really an opinionated centrist queer - I'm a repressed right-wing crackpot with nothing but sex on the brain and have been campaigning for the FMA since Bush hit office in '00. Permitting gays to exist is the reason why terrorists hate America so much. Whenever I can, I attend Westboro Baptist Church. I boycott Spongebob and Tinky Winky products. Long live James Dobson! “I just wonder where your mind is if whenever you see a shirtless man you immediately think about sex and only sex.”

OK, I’m sick of people putting words in my mouth. I’m going to do this one more time and request people read this whole way through.

I clearly explained in my comments why having sexy ads on a political blog could, for some people, denigrate the credibility of the blog. Sex is used to advertise all sorts of products – nearly all of them having nothing to do with sex. I find no fault with this (although I admit I’m not a fan of any kind of exploitation.) I did not say RealJock was about sex. i did not say this blog is not serious. I did not say heterosexual blogs do not do the same thing. I did not even request that the ad be taken down or replaced- nor am I requesting it now.

But you know what? Fine. Forget it. You guys win. I’m not really an opinionated centrist queer – I’m a repressed right-wing crackpot with nothing but sex on the brain and have been campaigning for the FMA since Bush hit office in ’00. Permitting gays to exist is the reason why terrorists hate America so much. Whenever I can, I attend Westboro Baptist Church. I boycott Spongebob and Tinky Winky products. Long live James Dobson!

]]> By: Jason http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1925 Jason Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:20:51 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1925 We can go round and round about what counts as far as appearance vs. content. I doubt we'd ever get anywhere. He has the words "jock" and "workout" on him. That makes me think that I shouldn't eat another donut, and that I should definitely be doing more crunches more often. But that's just me. I just wonder where your mind is if whenever you see a shirtless man you immediately think about sex and only sex. We can go round and round about what counts as far as appearance vs. content. I doubt we’d ever get anywhere.

He has the words “jock” and “workout” on him. That makes me think that I shouldn’t eat another donut, and that I should definitely be doing more crunches more often.

But that’s just me.

I just wonder where your mind is if whenever you see a shirtless man you immediately think about sex and only sex.

]]> By: Emily K http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1921 Emily K Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:28:13 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1921 I'm saying that no matter what the ad is advertising, appearance is everything. What is advertised doesn't matter to me. RealJock might not be about sex, but sex DOES sell, it's good advertising. More power to them. But to see a sexy advert on a political blog, IN MY OPINION, lessens the credibility of the political blog's message. As I said before, I WOULD THINK THE SAME THING OF A HETEROSEXUAL POLITICAL BLOG. And there's no rule in the homo law book that says we gays can't be right-wingers. I myself am a moderate. I’m saying that no matter what the ad is advertising, appearance is everything. What is advertised doesn’t matter to me.
RealJock might not be about sex, but sex DOES sell, it’s good advertising. More power to them. But to see a sexy advert on a political blog, IN MY OPINION, lessens the credibility of the political blog’s message. As I said before, I WOULD THINK THE SAME THING OF A HETEROSEXUAL POLITICAL BLOG.

And there’s no rule in the homo law book that says we gays can’t be right-wingers. I myself am a moderate.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1917 Kevin Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:51:58 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1917 Perhaps the mayor could drastically reduce rape and sexual assault by forcing a dusk curfew for heterosexual men. Perhaps the mayor could drastically reduce rape and sexual assault by forcing a dusk curfew for heterosexual men.

]]> By: Jason http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1916 Jason Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:36:51 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1916 Emily, Right now you're guilty of the same thing that right wingers are guilty of: ignorance. You obviously have not been to RealJock.com it's tag line is "Gay Fitness Community". As of my writing they have listed in on their front page box "Today on Real Jock" the following.... "Prostate 101: Protecting your Prostate" "Suspension Training" (it's an exercise article) "How Sweet it Is: Sugars vs. Sweetners" to the left of those 3 articles is a section labeled "Workout Plans" with 4 categories to start searching: -Strong and Lean Workout Plans -Triathalon Training Program -Marathon Training Program -Half Marathon Training Program Next to that, and below the 3 main articles are the latest forum posts made by users: -Your Wildlife Photos -Gym Shorts -Shaved Legs -Picture Perfect? -60 pounds! -Hyperbole There are also some photos of members who are currently signed in. they're all either head-shots or waist up. Some are shirtless, but you can see that at the beach. So no, RealJock is not about sex. The ad is actually a skyscraper or rectangle ad (banners go horizontally, not vertically, FYI) and says "Great Guys, Workouts, and more." It would appear that RealJock is a combination of Men's Health and MySpace geared toward gay athletic men. So you're suggesting BoxTurtle is less serious about gay issues because it uses advertising from a Health, Fitness, and Social networking website? Or is it because that website chooses to use athletic men (it's target audience) in it's ads? Emily,
Right now you’re guilty of the same thing that right wingers are guilty of: ignorance.

You obviously have not been to RealJock.com

it’s tag line is “Gay Fitness Community”.

As of my writing they have listed in on their front page box “Today on Real Jock” the following….

“Prostate 101: Protecting your Prostate”

“Suspension Training” (it’s an exercise article)

“How Sweet it Is: Sugars vs. Sweetners”

to the left of those 3 articles is a section labeled “Workout Plans” with 4 categories to start searching:
-Strong and Lean Workout Plans
-Triathalon Training Program
-Marathon Training Program
-Half Marathon Training Program

Next to that, and below the 3 main articles are the latest forum posts made by users:
-Your Wildlife Photos
-Gym Shorts
-Shaved Legs
-Picture Perfect?
-60 pounds!
-Hyperbole

There are also some photos of members who are currently signed in. they’re all either head-shots or waist up. Some are shirtless, but you can see that at the beach.

So no, RealJock is not about sex. The ad is actually a skyscraper or rectangle ad (banners go horizontally, not vertically, FYI) and says “Great Guys, Workouts, and more.”

It would appear that RealJock is a combination of Men’s Health and MySpace geared toward gay athletic men.

So you’re suggesting BoxTurtle is less serious about gay issues because it uses advertising from a Health, Fitness, and Social networking website? Or is it because that website chooses to use athletic men (it’s target audience) in it’s ads?

]]> By: Emily K http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1914 Emily K Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:42:38 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1914 If I saw a hetero political blog with sexy women in ads on their webpage, I would take it less seriously than if it were simply ads anything politically-related. It goes the same for gay or straight. I don't discriminate. If I saw a hetero political blog with sexy women in ads on their webpage, I would take it less seriously than if it were simply ads anything politically-related. It goes the same for gay or straight. I don’t discriminate.

]]> By: Benton http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678/comment-page-1#comment-1910 Benton Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:21:49 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/08/21/678#comment-1910 This may be pulling the thread off and if so, the powers that be may feel free to delete this post. But in the het community, sexuality is totally prevelant but unrecognized. The other day I saw two teens playing tonsil hockey and a couple in their twenties walking around with their hands on each others arses. If my partner and I were to do this, we would be "in their face" but when they do it, it is normal. This may be pulling the thread off and if so, the powers that be may feel free to delete this post.

But in the het community, sexuality is totally prevelant but unrecognized. The other day I saw two teens playing tonsil hockey and a couple in their twenties walking around with their hands on each others arses. If my partner and I were to do this, we would be “in their face” but when they do it, it is normal.

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