Whether or not gays are born that way is irrelevant to whether or not gayness should be in the DSM. What is relevant is whether or not gayness is a mental illness and work done by Evelyn Hooker in the 1950s showed that gays were indistinguishable from straights on common measures of mental health. It is for this reason that gayness was removed from the DSM and as Jason said it should never have been in there in the first place because there was never any evidence that gayness was a pathology.

Okay, let’s roll with this. Anthony, if you expect me, as a gay man, to be responsible for these things: I expect you, as a Christian, to be responsible for:
-The Crusades
-The Spanish Inquisition
-The Halocaust
-Every word out of the mouths of Phelps family.

Sound fair?

“When the American Psychiatric Association is “bullied” by gay activists to remove homosexuality from the DSM III in the early 1970’s without a bit of evidence that homosexuals are “born that way””

It’s good that you put warning quotes around “bullied” as it’s entirely a baldfaced lie. I’m surprised you were so honest in your writing as to admit that your allegation doesn’t have any merit.
You say it was removed without evidence, I say it was placed in the DSM III without a shred of evidence to begin with. To this day, no one has been able to prove any pathology in homosexuality, so there was never a good reason to put it in a list of mental disorders in the first place.

“When gay political activists attemt to remove the blame away fro the homosexual community for the spread of AIDS in this country”

HIV is a virus. It does not care who has it, or who gets it. That is the basics of viral pathology. The Homosexual Community isn’t responsible for the spread of HIV, human sexuality is responsible. Lack of education during the 1980’s is responsible. Willful ignorance by government and media is responsible. And for those who have HIV and knowingly spread it to others, THEY THEMSELVES are responsible. “We” didn’t create this disease, we certainly didn’t ask for it. HIV is an STD that ANYONE can get, and if you look worldwide it is HIV patients that are HETEROSEXUAL who make up the large majority of cases. So if we get to blame gays in the US, we get to blame all of heterosexuality outside the US. AND since this blame game is a numbers game, it’s based on who is the bigger group, then clearly heterosexuals are to blame. There are way more heterosexuals in the world then there are gay people, and as stated before there are more heterosexuals with HIV than gays.

“SOMETHING IS WRONG IN AMERICA!!!”

Absolutely. There are too many people like you who are more interested in playing the blame game then you are at actually doing something useful, helpful, and meaningful with your life. You can’t stop talking about the speck in someone else’s eye long enough to notice the tree trunk sticking out of yours.

Still obsessing about bath-houses in the 80’s, are you?

Sigh… why are so many ex-gays so very angry, bitter, and downright unpleasant?

You really need to connect with Christ, Anthony, not with your form of Christianity. Christ can bring you the joy and happiness that comes with being free from the Law of sin and death. He can lift that bondage of condemnation and terror and bring you peace. You can lose the anger and the need to condemn others and the fear that you just might not be good enough and the life of constant striving to be something other than what you are.

And if there’s one thing that your writing reveals, it’s that you truly need to find some peace and happiness in your life.

When you have become so spiritually dark that the above offenses against nature don’t bother you. When you don’t care that our gay brothers were infected with AIDS because the sin of lust and greed kept the gay bathhouses open in the 1980’s tells me that you are a very sick person. Open your eyes Mr. Kinkaid before you become as the bible says a “total reprobate”. Look at Romans 1; 18-32, it’s talking about you!

You can post long rants of unsubstantiated complaints on other web sites, including your own. This is not the place for you to try to claim victimhood. Nothing is wrong with America that people respecting each other cannot fix. When you decide to engage in respectful dialog, your comments will be welcome. Until then, I’m putting you on moderation.

You are the one who needs help when you remain silent as you also witness the events of the gay subculture. I’ve gotten help fro the great physician-Jesus the Christ AAF

If this is really where you are coming from, I strongly urge you to get help. You seem to have so much anger, and need to place so much blame. It isn’t a healthy place to be.

Do you really believe the things that you write or does it serve some other purpose?

My remarks were posted in an attempt to support Regina Griggs claim that David Eliott was indeed harmed and battered at the fair in Arlington, VA.

When gays spit on peaceful ex-gays at the March on Washington, when gay people invade the “private” PFOX and Exodus National Conference

When gay men and woman refused to act responsibly and close gay bath houses acroos the United States when the AIDS crisis hit in the early 80’s allowing the blood of millions of gay people to come upon the gay community because lust was more important than acting responsibly

When gay newspapers don’t allow paid advertisements for ex-gay meetings for the homosexual men and woman who are truly unhappy being gay and want out of the lifestyle.

When “outed” Congressman Mark Foley is forced to resign because of the outcry from the gay political community concerning his improprieties, however Gerry Studds is allowed to “bop” an underage congressional male page and not be kicked out of Congress

When the American Psychiatric Association is “bullied” by gay activists to remove homosexuality from the DSM III in the early 1970’s without a bit of evidence that homosexuals are “born that way”

When gay political activists attemt to remove the blame away fro the homosexual community for the spread of AIDS in this country

SOMETHING IS WRONG IN AMERICA!!!

Anyone else notice that?

melanie