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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-2#comment-71280</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
j
June 24th, 2010 &#124; LINK &#124; EDIT

Sorry, I admit to not know anything about the whole issue, which is why I was trying to figure out the evidence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is a lie.

While it is true that you don&#039;t really know any thing about the whole issue, you certainly seem to think you do.  You wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?com_mode=thread&amp;com_order=1&amp;storyid=6860&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a whole piece about it on VirtueOnline&lt;/a&gt;. 

It was factually incorrect.  But that&#039;s not too surprising.

Because you, sir, are a liar.

I don&#039;t use that term here for those with whom I disagree.  I don&#039;t throw &quot;liar&quot; around on the web.

But your blatant attempt to come here and make such an obviously false statement - which I suppose you thought you&#039;d get away with - leaves me no option.

We have no use for liars here.</description>
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j<br />
June 24th, 2010 | LINK | EDIT</p>
<p>Sorry, I admit to not know anything about the whole issue, which is why I was trying to figure out the evidence.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is a lie.</p>
<p>While it is true that you don&#8217;t really know any thing about the whole issue, you certainly seem to think you do.  You wrote <a href="http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?com_mode=thread&#038;com_order=1&#038;storyid=6860" rel="nofollow">a whole piece about it on VirtueOnline</a>. </p>
<p>It was factually incorrect.  But that&#8217;s not too surprising.</p>
<p>Because you, sir, are a liar.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use that term here for those with whom I disagree.  I don&#8217;t throw &#8220;liar&#8221; around on the web.</p>
<p>But your blatant attempt to come here and make such an obviously false statement &#8211; which I suppose you thought you&#8217;d get away with &#8211; leaves me no option.</p>
<p>We have no use for liars here.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-2#comment-71279</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher,

Sorry, missed that.  As I thought &quot;name one&quot; didn&#039;t actually mean name one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>Sorry, missed that.  As I thought &#8220;name one&#8221; didn&#8217;t actually mean name one.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Waldrop</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-2#comment-71278</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Waldrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, the study you&#039;re citing is the same one I referred to, the one that &quot;J&quot; has dismissed as the &lt;b&gt;only&lt;/b&gt; study I could come up with, when in fact it was only one study that I&#039;ve cited--not the only study out there. It seems to simply be the most recent in a long line of studies.

Even though &quot;J&quot; has made it clear, through both his sarcasm and his poor grammar, that he&#039;s not interested in serious debate, I do wonder if he can come up with a single study, or even some evidence from a credible source, that being homosexual is inherently unhealthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, the study you&#8217;re citing is the same one I referred to, the one that &#8220;J&#8221; has dismissed as the <b>only</b> study I could come up with, when in fact it was only one study that I&#8217;ve cited&#8211;not the only study out there. It seems to simply be the most recent in a long line of studies.</p>
<p>Even though &#8220;J&#8221; has made it clear, through both his sarcasm and his poor grammar, that he&#8217;s not interested in serious debate, I do wonder if he can come up with a single study, or even some evidence from a credible source, that being homosexual is inherently unhealthy.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-2#comment-71276</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I admit to not know anything about the whole issue, which is why I was trying to figure out the evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I admit to not know anything about the whole issue, which is why I was trying to figure out the evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-2#comment-71271</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh gosh, just to humor J, let&#039;s remind him that a study out &lt;b&gt;this month&lt;/b&gt; showed that gay men are fitter:

&lt;blockquote&gt;After scrutinizing a health survey of more than 67,000 Massachusetts residents between the ages of 18 and 64, the researchers found that 14 percent of gay men were obese versus 21 percent of straight men.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And obesity impacts heart health.

But somehow I very much doubt that &quot;J&quot; is actually interested in studies.  He just wants to be an obnoxious jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh gosh, just to humor J, let&#8217;s remind him that a study out <b>this month</b> showed that gay men are fitter:</p>
<blockquote><p>After scrutinizing a health survey of more than 67,000 Massachusetts residents between the ages of 18 and 64, the researchers found that 14 percent of gay men were obese versus 21 percent of straight men.</p></blockquote>
<p>And obesity impacts heart health.</p>
<p>But somehow I very much doubt that &#8220;J&#8221; is actually interested in studies.  He just wants to be an obnoxious jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-2#comment-71269</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, &quot;J&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?com_mode=thread&amp;com_order=1&amp;storyid=6860&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John F. McKenna&lt;/a&gt;) is no casual objector to health studies.  He not only believes the lies, he repeats them as &quot;an arsenal of good responses&quot; to &quot;the gay agenda.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, &#8220;J&#8221; (<a href="http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?com_mode=thread&#038;com_order=1&#038;storyid=6860" rel="nofollow">John F. McKenna</a>) is no casual objector to health studies.  He not only believes the lies, he repeats them as &#8220;an arsenal of good responses&#8221; to &#8220;the gay agenda.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, &quot;J&quot;. It turns out that you are actually the same &quot;jfmckenna&quot; who trolled this very same thread nearly three years ago. We carefully debunked everything you threw at us then. It&#039;s pretty pathetic that this has bothered you for all this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, &#8220;J&#8221;. It turns out that you are actually the same &#8220;jfmckenna&#8221; who trolled this very same thread nearly three years ago. We carefully debunked everything you threw at us then. It&#8217;s pretty pathetic that this has bothered you for all this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-1#comment-71267</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J there are no studies that show that gay sex results in dozens of problems.  You&#039;re confusing promiscuity with gay sex.  Gay sex doesn&#039;t result in any more problems then heterosexual sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J there are no studies that show that gay sex results in dozens of problems.  You&#8217;re confusing promiscuity with gay sex.  Gay sex doesn&#8217;t result in any more problems then heterosexual sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/05/741/comment-page-1#comment-71266</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.

There are plenty of studies that examine gay vs straight health measures. Only the ones showing gays with poorer outcomes are trumpted by the sites you visit. I&#039;ve seen a ton of other studies sugggesting otherwise, and used a small smattering of them in my parody demonstrating how organizations where you get your information selectively distort the scientific research. That parody is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,015.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, complete with all of the footnotes to the source material. 

Read it and learn. Learn that many LGBT people have similar health outcomes as straight people, learn that many straight populations have poorer health measures than gay people, and most importantly, learn how easy it is for your echo chamber to distort the medical research to lie about gay people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.</p>
<p>There are plenty of studies that examine gay vs straight health measures. Only the ones showing gays with poorer outcomes are trumpted by the sites you visit. I&#8217;ve seen a ton of other studies sugggesting otherwise, and used a small smattering of them in my parody demonstrating how organizations where you get your information selectively distort the scientific research. That parody is <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,015.htm" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">here</a>, complete with all of the footnotes to the source material. </p>
<p>Read it and learn. Learn that many LGBT people have similar health outcomes as straight people, learn that many straight populations have poorer health measures than gay people, and most importantly, learn how easy it is for your echo chamber to distort the medical research to lie about gay people.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was it??!!  WOW!!  That was it??!! Let me see if I have this straight.  When you look up the subject of gay health and see study after study saying that gay sex results in dozens of problems and 70% of the AIDS cases are gay men and on and on, and when you want to know whether there&#039;s another side to the story, what you get is the claim that gays ARE THINNER?  This is stunning to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was it??!!  WOW!!  That was it??!! Let me see if I have this straight.  When you look up the subject of gay health and see study after study saying that gay sex results in dozens of problems and 70% of the AIDS cases are gay men and on and on, and when you want to know whether there&#8217;s another side to the story, what you get is the claim that gays ARE THINNER?  This is stunning to me!</p>
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