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	<title>Comments on: California Legislature Removes Gender Requirement for Marriage &#8211; Again</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

&lt;i&gt;– Would someone married in Massachusetts and move to California automatically be a domestic partner?&lt;/i&gt;

I believe so.

&lt;i&gt;– Are employers required to recognize domestic partners on the same level as married couples?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes.  As are insurance providers.

&lt;i&gt;If the law gave a long laundry list of things it made available to same-sex couples, then surely there were things left out.&lt;/i&gt;

There have been little tiny adjustments along the way in obsure areas and they have been (or are being) fixed as they come up.  

DPs have been incremental in CA.  But I think all known differences have been corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p><i>– Would someone married in Massachusetts and move to California automatically be a domestic partner?</i></p>
<p>I believe so.</p>
<p><i>– Are employers required to recognize domestic partners on the same level as married couples?</i></p>
<p>Yes.  As are insurance providers.</p>
<p><i>If the law gave a long laundry list of things it made available to same-sex couples, then surely there were things left out.</i></p>
<p>There have been little tiny adjustments along the way in obsure areas and they have been (or are being) fixed as they come up.  </p>
<p>DPs have been incremental in CA.  But I think all known differences have been corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“If the ban of same-sex marriage is unconstitutional this bill is not necessary,” he said. “If the ban is constitutional this bill is ineffective.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are domestic partnerships really indistinguishable from marriage? For example:

-- Would someone married in Massachusetts and move to California automatically be a domestic partner, or would they have to go through some process all over again?

-- Are employers required to recognize domestic partners on the same level as married couples?

I&#039;m just asking. These are two things which sprang to mind right away. I really question whether the bill is &quot;not necessary&quot; if the ban is unconstitutional. It&#039;d be good to see the wording of the law which established domestic partnerships in California. 

If the law gave a long laundry list of things it made available to same-sex couples, then surely there were things left out. But if it said something like &quot;domestic partnerships shall provide all the benefits and obligations of marriage and shall be recognized as such by everyone in California&quot;, then maybe there&#039;s a case to be made. But even Denmark&#039;s landmark civil partnership law didn&#039;t go that far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“If the ban of same-sex marriage is unconstitutional this bill is not necessary,” he said. “If the ban is constitutional this bill is ineffective.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Are domestic partnerships really indistinguishable from marriage? For example:</p>
<p>&#8211; Would someone married in Massachusetts and move to California automatically be a domestic partner, or would they have to go through some process all over again?</p>
<p>&#8211; Are employers required to recognize domestic partners on the same level as married couples?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just asking. These are two things which sprang to mind right away. I really question whether the bill is &#8220;not necessary&#8221; if the ban is unconstitutional. It&#8217;d be good to see the wording of the law which established domestic partnerships in California. </p>
<p>If the law gave a long laundry list of things it made available to same-sex couples, then surely there were things left out. But if it said something like &#8220;domestic partnerships shall provide all the benefits and obligations of marriage and shall be recognized as such by everyone in California&#8221;, then maybe there&#8217;s a case to be made. But even Denmark&#8217;s landmark civil partnership law didn&#8217;t go that far.</p>
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		<title>By: cooner</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/07/760/comment-page-1#comment-2422</link>
		<dc:creator>cooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 07:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of hatred and bile spewed in the comments section in the SacBee article is just depressing.

And someone even topped off their hatred by pulling out the old &quot;We&#039;re only saying this because we LOVE you and don&#039;t want you to sin&quot; line.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of hatred and bile spewed in the comments section in the SacBee article is just depressing.</p>
<p>And someone even topped off their hatred by pulling out the old &#8220;We&#8217;re only saying this because we LOVE you and don&#8217;t want you to sin&#8221; line.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;I&#039;ll be back.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

And so too will the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>I&#8217;ll be back.</i></b></p>
<p>And so too will the bill.</p>
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