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	<title>Comments on: Jones&#8217; and Yarhouse&#8217;s Ex-Gay Study Released</title>
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		<title>By: Ex-Gay Watch &#187; Exodus Puts Upbeat Spin on Ex-Gay Study Finding Little &#8216;Change&#8217;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-Gay Watch &#187; Exodus Puts Upbeat Spin on Ex-Gay Study Finding Little &#8216;Change&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the questions that have emerged thus far, I am curious to know the answers to questions raised by two commenters at Box Turtle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very similar to the Masters and johnson &quot;change&quot; study many  years ago. It turns out most of the people that weree &quot;changeable&quot; turned out to be bi to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very similar to the Masters and johnson &#8220;change&#8221; study many  years ago. It turns out most of the people that weree &#8220;changeable&#8221; turned out to be bi to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing I&#039;d like to see is how bisexuality is treated.

I know 4 people who, in college, claimed to be bisexual.  Two men, and Two women.  Ten years later, none of them is in a same-sex relationship, nor have they expressed any interest in pursuing one anymore. Two are even in happy heterosexual marriages.

None of the four is particularly religious, and none have claimed to be ex-gay, been &quot;healed&quot; of their bisexual ways, and all are quite supportive of the gay community.    They were all quite pleased to hear that I had come out years ago.

Part of my point is that bisexuality and bicuriousity is routinely ignored by the ex-gay industry.  Had my four friends been in distress and entered an ex-gay program they would&#039;ve been categorized as homosexual, their current lack of same-sex partners deemed a success, and become testimony that the &quot;therapies&quot; involved are successful.

There are very few true bisexuals, people with an active interest in both sexes that they are willing to pursue.  There are a lot of bicurious people who upon experiencing a same-sex relationship realize that it&#039;s just not what they were looking for, and that they miss certain aspects of the opposite sex very much.

My theory is that a lot of bicurious and bisexual people enter therapy, are labeled homosexual and then labeled as a success.  In reality they might have found an opposite-sex mate without all the drama, and that these bisexual and bicurious people shouldn&#039;t be included.    It delivers misleading data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing I&#8217;d like to see is how bisexuality is treated.</p>
<p>I know 4 people who, in college, claimed to be bisexual.  Two men, and Two women.  Ten years later, none of them is in a same-sex relationship, nor have they expressed any interest in pursuing one anymore. Two are even in happy heterosexual marriages.</p>
<p>None of the four is particularly religious, and none have claimed to be ex-gay, been &#8220;healed&#8221; of their bisexual ways, and all are quite supportive of the gay community.    They were all quite pleased to hear that I had come out years ago.</p>
<p>Part of my point is that bisexuality and bicuriousity is routinely ignored by the ex-gay industry.  Had my four friends been in distress and entered an ex-gay program they would&#8217;ve been categorized as homosexual, their current lack of same-sex partners deemed a success, and become testimony that the &#8220;therapies&#8221; involved are successful.</p>
<p>There are very few true bisexuals, people with an active interest in both sexes that they are willing to pursue.  There are a lot of bicurious people who upon experiencing a same-sex relationship realize that it&#8217;s just not what they were looking for, and that they miss certain aspects of the opposite sex very much.</p>
<p>My theory is that a lot of bicurious and bisexual people enter therapy, are labeled homosexual and then labeled as a success.  In reality they might have found an opposite-sex mate without all the drama, and that these bisexual and bicurious people shouldn&#8217;t be included.    It delivers misleading data.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m most interested in how this longitudinal study deals with one of the major issues with Exodus and other &quot;change&quot; ministries - the complete lack of standardization of &quot;treatment.&quot; There are no clinical practice guidelines for &quot;ex-gay&quot; therapy, in fact, IIRC, Exodus does not even catalogue the various &quot;treatments&quot; used by its member groups. If that is the case, the question becomes, exactly what are we studying here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m most interested in how this longitudinal study deals with one of the major issues with Exodus and other &#8220;change&#8221; ministries &#8211; the complete lack of standardization of &#8220;treatment.&#8221; There are no clinical practice guidelines for &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; therapy, in fact, IIRC, Exodus does not even catalogue the various &#8220;treatments&#8221; used by its member groups. If that is the case, the question becomes, exactly what are we studying here?</p>
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