Whatever. I didn’t accuse them of bias, I said they were biased. Go back and see why I gave my opinion (and check if I was talking to any of them).

I’m not Wikipedia you know, I don’t do other people’s work for them… but…

Could you define pornography for me?

How does it differ to “marital relations”?

(leave any religious viewpoints out of it, that’ll help.)

Also, I am left wondering why, if you consider accusations of bias too easy to trump up to be taken seriously, you nonetheless make them against others?

You need not be delicate with us, but thank-you for the concern.

We really don’t care if somebody would swear on their mother’s grave that they think we are biased. You’ll look in vain for a statement from us demanding to be called unbiased. Apart from that being somewhat of a futile demand, the charge itself is too easy too trump up in the first place.

Really not going to waste our breath on that sort of thing. Much.

And no, we did not intend to exclude questions of legitimacy. It’s a very different issue to that of bias. The question comes down to one of purpose and whether it contributes to pure knowledge.

Jim has provided a fantastic example of how to do illegitimate research. He’s put a lot of skilful effort in there… he’s a good researcher… but the outcome is thoroughly illegitimate. Only a loon would mistake Jim’s illustration for knowledge about heterosexuals. Only an evil loon would stand up in Court and wave Jim’s illustration around.

You’ll please note that we did not label Jones, Yarhouse or Throckmorton as “bad” or “incompetent”.

hope that helped.

Also, I’m not entirely sure I know what you mean by saying that someone is or is not a ‘legitimate’ researcher. The only point of interest is whether someone is a good, competent researcher or not. Is that what you mean?

Tonight I met with a client (Ted), of whom I have had hundreds like him, who was acting out homosexually from sexual abuse as a child and is in full recovery–not of homosexuality but of trauma and abuse.

Ted found guys through the internet that he could get to worship his muscular athletic body and fellate him. They would even kiss.

While many would say, “This guy is gay or at least bisexual”–he is neither.
We uncovered he was reenacting his childhood trauma and abuse.

As an adolescent an older man told Ted he had a great build for his age–which he did. The abuse went on for several years.

This client is looking for intimacy with men–which our society leaves little to no room for among men.

And Ted is not gay.

He is aroused by women, desires women, has sex with women and compulsively sexually acts out with men.

Yarhouse and his associates would take these straight men, label them as “homosexuals” struggling with “same sex attraction” and when they heal identity them as ex-gay.

It is not gay. I wish they would leave “gay” and “homosexual” out of their entire discussion.

Sexual orientation cannot change–ever!