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	<title>Comments on: Associated Baptist Press Reports Criticism of Ex-Gay Study</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2913</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

I read the Mother Jones piece and found it light on substantial argument and long on leftist theory.  As the conservative writer here, it wasn&#039;t really my cup of tea.

While his notions of sexual fluidity fit well with the left&#039;s &quot;homosexuality as rebellion against the paternalistic heirarchy&quot; notions, Greenburg provided VERY little science in his &quot;science of sexual identity&quot; article.  

What was present was Lisa Diamond&#039;s study of 79 nonheterosexuals which, while interesting, was neither informative nor significant.  The sexual histories of a group of women identified diversely as lesbian, bisexual, and not accepting of labels sounds more to me like politics and less like science.

In my opinion, Greenburg&#039;s musings aren&#039;t particularly relevant to the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>I read the Mother Jones piece and found it light on substantial argument and long on leftist theory.  As the conservative writer here, it wasn&#8217;t really my cup of tea.</p>
<p>While his notions of sexual fluidity fit well with the left&#8217;s &#8220;homosexuality as rebellion against the paternalistic heirarchy&#8221; notions, Greenburg provided VERY little science in his &#8220;science of sexual identity&#8221; article.  </p>
<p>What was present was Lisa Diamond&#8217;s study of 79 nonheterosexuals which, while interesting, was neither informative nor significant.  The sexual histories of a group of women identified diversely as lesbian, bisexual, and not accepting of labels sounds more to me like politics and less like science.</p>
<p>In my opinion, Greenburg&#8217;s musings aren&#8217;t particularly relevant to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2906</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Timothy,

I found the article in the current issue of the Mother Jones Magazine interesting being published before Jones and Yarhouse&#039;s study. So I hope you take the time to read the article. 
The author, who identifies himself as a practing psychotherapist, agrees with Jones and Yarhouse.

So Timothy how do you respond to the article in the Mother Jones Magazine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Timothy,</p>
<p>I found the article in the current issue of the Mother Jones Magazine interesting being published before Jones and Yarhouse&#8217;s study. So I hope you take the time to read the article.<br />
The author, who identifies himself as a practing psychotherapist, agrees with Jones and Yarhouse.</p>
<p>So Timothy how do you respond to the article in the Mother Jones Magazine?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2863</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

If you are a regular reader then I&#039;m sure you know that we regularly cover ex-gay issues.  Please feel free to comment.  That is probably the best venue for a meaningful, open, and honest discussion with our readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>If you are a regular reader then I&#8217;m sure you know that we regularly cover ex-gay issues.  Please feel free to comment.  That is probably the best venue for a meaningful, open, and honest discussion with our readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2859</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/07/an_open_letter_to_michael_glatze.php

Larry: I would suggestthat you read all of the commentary in this link on the &quot;conversion&quot; of Michael Glatze. I think it is very informative, and Daniel&#039;s very thoughtful commentary on this issue is the best exposition I have ever read.

Bottom line-- you can believe whatever you want to. I&#039;m going to object strongly if you insist that I believe it as well, and that my rights as an american and a human being are going to be compromised merely to validate your beliefs.

As Daniel says, you can be a monkey if you want to. It does not invalidate my experience, or mean that somehow your social and religious agenda should determine the course of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/07/an_open_letter_to_michael_glatze.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/07/an_open_letter_to_michael_glatze.php</a></p>
<p>Larry: I would suggestthat you read all of the commentary in this link on the &#8220;conversion&#8221; of Michael Glatze. I think it is very informative, and Daniel&#8217;s very thoughtful commentary on this issue is the best exposition I have ever read.</p>
<p>Bottom line&#8211; you can believe whatever you want to. I&#8217;m going to object strongly if you insist that I believe it as well, and that my rights as an american and a human being are going to be compromised merely to validate your beliefs.</p>
<p>As Daniel says, you can be a monkey if you want to. It does not invalidate my experience, or mean that somehow your social and religious agenda should determine the course of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..not a person&quot;?? Larry, I&#039;d be careful with what you call your sites in the future. a better acronym would have been &quot;BANO&quot;- &quot;behavior and not orientation.&quot; It&#039;s easier to tell people and overall sounds less clumsy- and less cruel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..not a person&#8221;?? Larry, I&#8217;d be careful with what you call your sites in the future. a better acronym would have been &#8220;BANO&#8221;- &#8220;behavior and not orientation.&#8221; It&#8217;s easier to tell people and overall sounds less clumsy- and less cruel.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops,

Timothy, the web page I failed to mention in my first comment posted is www.banap.net.

Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops,</p>
<p>Timothy, the web page I failed to mention in my first comment posted is <a href="http://www.banap.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.banap.net</a>.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2853</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Timothy,

I regularly read your blog. Please comment on a article in the current issue (Sept./Oct.)Mother Jones Magazine. The tile of the article is &quot;Gay By Choice? The Science of Sexual Identity? 

I am pasting the web address for the article&gt; 

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/gay-by-choice.html 

Also please visit my web page. If possible I would like to have a meaningful, open and honset discussion with you and the readers of your blog.

Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Timothy,</p>
<p>I regularly read your blog. Please comment on a article in the current issue (Sept./Oct.)Mother Jones Magazine. The tile of the article is &#8220;Gay By Choice? The Science of Sexual Identity? </p>
<p>I am pasting the web address for the article&gt; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/gay-by-choice.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/gay-by-choice.html</a> </p>
<p>Also please visit my web page. If possible I would like to have a meaningful, open and honset discussion with you and the readers of your blog.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2829</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So an &quot;A&quot; is the difference between those who hype the numbers and those who don&#039;t.... hmmm....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So an &#8220;A&#8221; is the difference between those who hype the numbers and those who don&#8217;t&#8230;. hmmm&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/806/comment-page-1#comment-2823</link>
		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i read it and it was nice to see that not all christian publications take a one news now point of view of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i read it and it was nice to see that not all christian publications take a one news now point of view of things.</p>
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