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	<title>Comments on: Dark Clouds In the Sunshine State</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2908</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where the AP got their figures. I&#039;d say the attendance was closer to 300 by evening, and maybe as many as 400 on the last evening. Attendance appeared to be lower during the day, especially so on Saturday.

But yes, I did overhear some of the organizers and speakers privately lament the low turnout -- and complaining how difficult it has been lately to get good attendance at other events as well. And throughout Friday and Saturday there were several appeals for donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where the AP got their figures. I&#8217;d say the attendance was closer to 300 by evening, and maybe as many as 400 on the last evening. Attendance appeared to be lower during the day, especially so on Saturday.</p>
<p>But yes, I did overhear some of the organizers and speakers privately lament the low turnout &#8212; and complaining how difficult it has been lately to get good attendance at other events as well. And throughout Friday and Saturday there were several appeals for donations.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2899</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP is saying that only about 104 people were registered.

Considering the cost and that a few of those there were non-supporters such as Jim, would it be fair to say that this summit was a collossal costly failure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP is saying that only about 104 people were registered.</p>
<p>Considering the cost and that a few of those there were non-supporters such as Jim, would it be fair to say that this summit was a collossal costly failure?</p>
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		<title>By: Creative Loafing tampa &#187; Blurbex &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Family Impact Summit: A Re-Cap</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2894</link>
		<dc:creator>Creative Loafing tampa &#187; Blurbex &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Family Impact Summit: A Re-Cap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] summit. So was a prominent gay rights blogger and reps from Right Wing Watch. Catch their reports here and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] summit. So was a prominent gay rights blogger and reps from Right Wing Watch. Catch their reports here and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: allan</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2884</link>
		<dc:creator>allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh you brave wonderful soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you brave wonderful soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2858</link>
		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless you man. I learned long ago that faxing pink liquid wasn&#039;t very practical, or possible at all. So I thought this might be more effective.
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(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pepto-bismol.com/peptoMatch/index.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pepto Bismol Dating game parody&lt;/a&gt;)
Type in a name, then click on the &quot;&lt;b&gt;ask a new question button&lt;/b&gt;.&quot; Fourth question is..
&lt;blockquote&gt;“It’s the morning after a concert and I wake up feeling nauseous. How would you help me get back into rhythm? Sing it in a song.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
..my favorite song was #4:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I thank it would go something like this,

&lt;i&gt;♪ When the nausea&#039;s too much to bear.
Just let me take, good care. ♪&lt;/i&gt;

When you&#039;re nauseaus, that just ain&#039;t right. whatchu need is my, chewy relief. So let&#039;s not ever be apart. keep me close to your heart...always.

&lt;i&gt;♪ Just take good care, don&#039;t have a doubt. My relief will easily dissolve in your mouth. ♪&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you boys.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...but I pick #1 for you.

http://www.pepto-bismol.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless you man. I learned long ago that faxing pink liquid wasn&#8217;t very practical, or possible at all. So I thought this might be more effective.<br />
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(<a href="http://www.pepto-bismol.com/peptoMatch/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">Pepto Bismol Dating game parody</a>)<br />
Type in a name, then click on the &#8220;<b>ask a new question button</b>.&#8221; Fourth question is..</p>
<blockquote><p>“It’s the morning after a concert and I wake up feeling nauseous. How would you help me get back into rhythm? Sing it in a song.”</p></blockquote>
<p>..my favorite song was #4:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I thank it would go something like this,</p>
<p><i>♪ When the nausea&#8217;s too much to bear.<br />
Just let me take, good care. ♪</i></p>
<p>When you&#8217;re nauseaus, that just ain&#8217;t right. whatchu need is my, chewy relief. So let&#8217;s not ever be apart. keep me close to your heart&#8230;always.</p>
<p><i>♪ Just take good care, don&#8217;t have a doubt. My relief will easily dissolve in your mouth. ♪</i></p>
<p>Thank you boys.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;but I pick #1 for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pepto-bismol.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pepto-bismol.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2844</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every group that builds itself into power through targeted hate of another group always uses the same rhetoric. 

example: White Supremacist hate groups like the Aryan Nation say that Jews control the media and have unlimited financial resources. 

Now, Chambers and Exodus with this &quot;Values&quot; group are saying the exact same thing about gays. 

Shouldn&#039;t it concern these people - who claim such moral superiority, and claim to be full of Christ&#039;s love - be concerned that the words from their lips also come from the minds of government-confirmed hate groups?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every group that builds itself into power through targeted hate of another group always uses the same rhetoric. </p>
<p>example: White Supremacist hate groups like the Aryan Nation say that Jews control the media and have unlimited financial resources. </p>
<p>Now, Chambers and Exodus with this &#8220;Values&#8221; group are saying the exact same thing about gays. </p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t it concern these people &#8211; who claim such moral superiority, and claim to be full of Christ&#8217;s love &#8211; be concerned that the words from their lips also come from the minds of government-confirmed hate groups?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2843</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what these other culture warriors are really thinking as they sit there listening to Alan Chambers speak?  I can&#039;t believe that they really respect him any more than they would respect any other gay person.

Ex-gays serve a use for the actual power houses of the Religious Right, but ex-gays are really kidding themselves if they think they really belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what these other culture warriors are really thinking as they sit there listening to Alan Chambers speak?  I can&#8217;t believe that they really respect him any more than they would respect any other gay person.</p>
<p>Ex-gays serve a use for the actual power houses of the Religious Right, but ex-gays are really kidding themselves if they think they really belong.</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apparently us gays have all the money and we control the media.

in the immortal words of a sitcom character:

&quot;how come we overcame and nobody told me?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently us gays have all the money and we control the media.</p>
<p>in the immortal words of a sitcom character:</p>
<p>&#8220;how come we overcame and nobody told me?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken R</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/09/21/808/comment-page-1#comment-2834</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In case you haven’t heard, our country has been lead by principalities and powers. They are rich, they are powerful, their leaders make hundreds of thousands of dollars from their activism. “We have to stand up against an evil agenda. It is an evil agenda and it will take anyone captive that is willing, or that is standing idly by,” Alan Chambers said as he neared the conclusion of his talk.&lt;/i&gt;

You know Jim I thought you were talking about the Christian Right for a moment until I read that Alan Chambers said it.

Perhaps I am not truly that far off by my assumptions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In case you haven’t heard, our country has been lead by principalities and powers. They are rich, they are powerful, their leaders make hundreds of thousands of dollars from their activism. “We have to stand up against an evil agenda. It is an evil agenda and it will take anyone captive that is willing, or that is standing idly by,” Alan Chambers said as he neared the conclusion of his talk.</i></p>
<p>You know Jim I thought you were talking about the Christian Right for a moment until I read that Alan Chambers said it.</p>
<p>Perhaps I am not truly that far off by my assumptions?</p>
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