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	<title>Comments on: AIDS &#8211; Poppers Connection</title>
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		<title>By: Tony Sanderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Gray:

Try REAL GOLD, the golden bottle then you will not cough. I have the same problem, RUSH causes bad cough but REAL GOLD does not. I have no idea why, can anyone share some insights?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Gray:</p>
<p>Try REAL GOLD, the golden bottle then you will not cough. I have the same problem, RUSH causes bad cough but REAL GOLD does not. I have no idea why, can anyone share some insights?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: beth johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>beth johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was introduced to poppers for the first time early yesterday morning. I had not even heard of it. I was sooo drunk outta my mind. The guy i was hanging out with just pulled it out and started sniffing this small bottle at first i thought he was crazy and then I sniffed and kep sniffing. I guess i didn&#039;t sleep very long but i have felt bad all day and we did use protection. Ever since i have been researching this poppers side effects and when i seen sudden death it made me call poison control. My head is still hurting pretty bad and i keep sneezing. I have been drinking water cause im way past hungover but i feel a tad better not much more. Will this horrible feeling ever go away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was introduced to poppers for the first time early yesterday morning. I had not even heard of it. I was sooo drunk outta my mind. The guy i was hanging out with just pulled it out and started sniffing this small bottle at first i thought he was crazy and then I sniffed and kep sniffing. I guess i didn&#8217;t sleep very long but i have felt bad all day and we did use protection. Ever since i have been researching this poppers side effects and when i seen sudden death it made me call poison control. My head is still hurting pretty bad and i keep sneezing. I have been drinking water cause im way past hungover but i feel a tad better not much more. Will this horrible feeling ever go away?</p>
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		<title>By: gary mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonight I used poppers just for fun. It was the 5th time over a 10 day period. About 2 hours after using it- i tried to go to bed as it was late. When I tried to lie down I could not breathe- my lungs seemed to be be getting only 1/4th of the air it needed. I expereienced severe anxiety attacks and could not breath fast enough. Then, the coughing began. Non-stop coughing. Poppers are evil. It messes up the lungs and I am scared to death. If I do not get better within a few hours I will be going to the emergency room for relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight I used poppers just for fun. It was the 5th time over a 10 day period. About 2 hours after using it- i tried to go to bed as it was late. When I tried to lie down I could not breathe- my lungs seemed to be be getting only 1/4th of the air it needed. I expereienced severe anxiety attacks and could not breath fast enough. Then, the coughing began. Non-stop coughing. Poppers are evil. It messes up the lungs and I am scared to death. If I do not get better within a few hours I will be going to the emergency room for relief.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Hooper</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/11/20/1029/comment-page-1#comment-4602</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Hooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most research claiming poppers were dangerous was done by zealots with an agenda against poppers, or with other personal agendas, and the studies they performed were all flawed (http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/hank_wilson_references/)

But, when some of those same researchers actually controlled the dosage in their studies, there was no harm whatsoever. (http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/aids_researchers_disgust_/)

Leading AIDS experts have said over and over &quot;Poppers are not the cause of AIDS&quot;, or KS: http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/cause_of_aids/

What&#039;s most telling is that after 200 years of this stuff being around, and after almost a half century of people (gay and straight -- this is not a purely gay drug) sniffing poppers to enhance sex, there have been no credible research results to prove they&#039;re dangerous if inhaled.

There&#039;s no basis in fact to make the claim poppers are immunosuppressive. They simply do not increase susceptibility of infection if exposed to HIV.  Studies have shown they do not.

Poppers don&#039;t disinhibit anyone to the extent they&#039;re going to do anything they weren&#039;t already going to do.  The studies have consistently shown that those who engage in risky sex are prone to do it no matter what they are doing.  Not using poppers would have no effect on their decision-making.  Using alcohol, meth, marijuana or other substances may, however.

As for dilating blood vessels which then lets the HIV enter the body, that makes no sense.  The size of the AIDS virus is very small. It enters the body mainly via unprotected anal sex, where the skin has been rubbed raw.  The size of blood vessels is irrelevant. This kind of misinformation is what confuses people.  When they read it or hear it, they&#039;re turned off by the message and dispute anything else they may hear. Information should be credible.  We&#039;re smart enough to listen and make decisions, but if the info is goofy, it&#039;s discredited.

The bibliographies Mr. Wilson mentions have been disputed and discredited over and over.  Here&#039;s one example: http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/hank_wilson_references/

Mr. Wilson may want more research, but poppers have been studied to no end with the same results: no harm.

Having said that, education is a good thing.  But it needs to come from credible sources with accurate information.  One needs only to look at the Wikipedia page on poppers (see the discussion page) to see that Mr. Wilson is a virulent anti-popper zealot who is, himself, the source of much disinformation. I&#039;m not sure where the popper &#039;promotion campaign by the poppers industry&#039; is going on, but Mr. Wilson has waged a huge anti-popper war on Wikipedia for years. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers)

To stop the spread of the HIV virus you must rubber up!!  Wear a condom if you&#039;re going to engage in anal sex! It&#039;s that simple.

In fact, for most people who use poppers, they enhance the sexual experience so much that they can even enhance sex with condoms, making condoms more acceptable to some who resist wearing one because they think that sex feels less satisfying with one on.

TH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most research claiming poppers were dangerous was done by zealots with an agenda against poppers, or with other personal agendas, and the studies they performed were all flawed (<a href="http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/hank_wilson_references/" rel="nofollow">http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/hank_wilson_references/</a>)</p>
<p>But, when some of those same researchers actually controlled the dosage in their studies, there was no harm whatsoever. (<a href="http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/aids_researchers_disgust_/" rel="nofollow">http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/aids_researchers_disgust_/</a>)</p>
<p>Leading AIDS experts have said over and over &#8220;Poppers are not the cause of AIDS&#8221;, or KS: <a href="http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/cause_of_aids/" rel="nofollow">http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/cause_of_aids/</a></p>
<p>What&#8217;s most telling is that after 200 years of this stuff being around, and after almost a half century of people (gay and straight &#8212; this is not a purely gay drug) sniffing poppers to enhance sex, there have been no credible research results to prove they&#8217;re dangerous if inhaled.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no basis in fact to make the claim poppers are immunosuppressive. They simply do not increase susceptibility of infection if exposed to HIV.  Studies have shown they do not.</p>
<p>Poppers don&#8217;t disinhibit anyone to the extent they&#8217;re going to do anything they weren&#8217;t already going to do.  The studies have consistently shown that those who engage in risky sex are prone to do it no matter what they are doing.  Not using poppers would have no effect on their decision-making.  Using alcohol, meth, marijuana or other substances may, however.</p>
<p>As for dilating blood vessels which then lets the HIV enter the body, that makes no sense.  The size of the AIDS virus is very small. It enters the body mainly via unprotected anal sex, where the skin has been rubbed raw.  The size of blood vessels is irrelevant. This kind of misinformation is what confuses people.  When they read it or hear it, they&#8217;re turned off by the message and dispute anything else they may hear. Information should be credible.  We&#8217;re smart enough to listen and make decisions, but if the info is goofy, it&#8217;s discredited.</p>
<p>The bibliographies Mr. Wilson mentions have been disputed and discredited over and over.  Here&#8217;s one example: <a href="http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/hank_wilson_references/" rel="nofollow">http://www.virusmythpoppersmyth.org/hank_wilson_references/</a></p>
<p>Mr. Wilson may want more research, but poppers have been studied to no end with the same results: no harm.</p>
<p>Having said that, education is a good thing.  But it needs to come from credible sources with accurate information.  One needs only to look at the Wikipedia page on poppers (see the discussion page) to see that Mr. Wilson is a virulent anti-popper zealot who is, himself, the source of much disinformation. I&#8217;m not sure where the popper &#8216;promotion campaign by the poppers industry&#8217; is going on, but Mr. Wilson has waged a huge anti-popper war on Wikipedia for years. (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers</a>)</p>
<p>To stop the spread of the HIV virus you must rubber up!!  Wear a condom if you&#8217;re going to engage in anal sex! It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>In fact, for most people who use poppers, they enhance the sexual experience so much that they can even enhance sex with condoms, making condoms more acceptable to some who resist wearing one because they think that sex feels less satisfying with one on.</p>
<p>TH</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poppers can be a compound risk:
1. immunosuppressive - increasing susceptibility of infection if exposed to HIV
2. disinhibiting - increasing the likelihood of riskier unprotected sex
3. dilating blood vessels - increasing the likelihood of HIV entering the body

hppc://www.poppers.cfsites.org 

has a bibilographies of published research for your evaluation.   

More research is needed and warranted by the high prevalence of poppers use An education campaign is needed to counter balance the ongoing disinformation and promotion campaign by the poppers industry. 

Hank Wilson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poppers can be a compound risk:<br />
1. immunosuppressive &#8211; increasing susceptibility of infection if exposed to HIV<br />
2. disinhibiting &#8211; increasing the likelihood of riskier unprotected sex<br />
3. dilating blood vessels &#8211; increasing the likelihood of HIV entering the body</p>
<p>hppc://www.poppers.cfsites.org </p>
<p>has a bibilographies of published research for your evaluation.   </p>
<p>More research is needed and warranted by the high prevalence of poppers use An education campaign is needed to counter balance the ongoing disinformation and promotion campaign by the poppers industry. </p>
<p>Hank Wilson</p>
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		<title>By: Suricou Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suricou Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am by no means a professional scientist, so I dont consider myself properly qualified to judge the validity of otherwise of a study. Even so, when scientists mid-way through a trial just abandon it, and then claim that they have found a way to reduce HIV infection rates so easily, I am suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am by no means a professional scientist, so I dont consider myself properly qualified to judge the validity of otherwise of a study. Even so, when scientists mid-way through a trial just abandon it, and then claim that they have found a way to reduce HIV infection rates so easily, I am suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: atothek</title>
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		<dc:creator>atothek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isnt it true that inhalation of poppers makes you hight and you don´t longer care about safer sex?</description>
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		<title>By: atothek</title>
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		<dc:creator>atothek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.. and it´s genotoxic!</description>
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		<title>By: atothek</title>
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		<dc:creator>atothek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot the brain damage, sorry</description>
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		<title>By: atothek</title>
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		<dc:creator>atothek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poppers causes cancer, unreversable liver- nephritic- and lung-damage and cauterizes your airways. Further it makes your body unresistant against infections of all kinds. 
Stay-away of this junkie-shit!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poppers causes cancer, unreversable liver- nephritic- and lung-damage and cauterizes your airways. Further it makes your body unresistant against infections of all kinds.<br />
Stay-away of this junkie-shit!!</p>
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