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	<title>Comments on: Alan Chambers On Hillary Clinton</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/11/29/1067/comment-page-1#comment-4568</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how funny, I had to read Jonathan&#039;s comment twice.  HRC = Human Rights Campaign in my vocabulary.  That&#039;s interesting that HRC = Hilary Rodham Clinton as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how funny, I had to read Jonathan&#8217;s comment twice.  HRC = Human Rights Campaign in my vocabulary.  That&#8217;s interesting that HRC = Hilary Rodham Clinton as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/11/29/1067/comment-page-1#comment-4567</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching my local news the other evening after HRC spoke at Rick Warren&#039;s church in Orange County.  The OC is an incredibly conservative county and many of Warren&#039;s paritioners identify as such.  Several who were interviewed found their opinion of HRC to be totally changed after listening to her speech.  One said that while his politics wouldn&#039;t allow him to vote for her should she win the primary, he wouldn&#039;t be uncomfortable if she were elected President.  Another flat out said that he might actually find himself voting for a Democrat for the first time in his life.  

I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m ready to cast my support behind her.  However, I am finding that people who are adamently opposed to the idea of her as President come away feeling a little less strident about their position after having heard her in person.

I&#039;m glad Alan has made these comments!

j.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching my local news the other evening after HRC spoke at Rick Warren&#8217;s church in Orange County.  The OC is an incredibly conservative county and many of Warren&#8217;s paritioners identify as such.  Several who were interviewed found their opinion of HRC to be totally changed after listening to her speech.  One said that while his politics wouldn&#8217;t allow him to vote for her should she win the primary, he wouldn&#8217;t be uncomfortable if she were elected President.  Another flat out said that he might actually find himself voting for a Democrat for the first time in his life.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m ready to cast my support behind her.  However, I am finding that people who are adamently opposed to the idea of her as President come away feeling a little less strident about their position after having heard her in person.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Alan has made these comments!</p>
<p>j.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/11/29/1067/comment-page-1#comment-4555</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling the Senator by her first name is no more offensive than calling the previous NY mayor &quot;Rudy&quot;, which do most of his supporters and much of the press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling the Senator by her first name is no more offensive than calling the previous NY mayor &#8220;Rudy&#8221;, which do most of his supporters and much of the press.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/11/29/1067/comment-page-1#comment-4553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also add that simply calling Sen. Clinton by her last name (a la Giuliani, McCain, Obama, Edwards, etc.), which is also a common practice, would leave some ambiguity as to which Clinton you were referring to since Bill Clinton remains very much in the public eye.

I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any inherent disrespect by calling her Hillary. Especially considering that her supporters are as likely to call her by her first name as her opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also add that simply calling Sen. Clinton by her last name (a la Giuliani, McCain, Obama, Edwards, etc.), which is also a common practice, would leave some ambiguity as to which Clinton you were referring to since Bill Clinton remains very much in the public eye.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any inherent disrespect by calling her Hillary. Especially considering that her supporters are as likely to call her by her first name as her opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Chambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allyson, calling Senator Clinton &quot;Hillary&quot; is the same as calling President Bush &quot;W&quot;.  I think it shows their human and isn&#039;t meant to be disrespectful.  As for calling Senator McCain &quot;John&quot;....there is a John around every corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allyson, calling Senator Clinton &#8220;Hillary&#8221; is the same as calling President Bush &#8220;W&#8221;.  I think it shows their human and isn&#8217;t meant to be disrespectful.  As for calling Senator McCain &#8220;John&#8221;&#8230;.there is a John around every corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Alan. It&#039;s nice to see a conservative Christian not always driven by a political agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Alan. It&#8217;s nice to see a conservative Christian not always driven by a political agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, guys, Clinton is not the only Democrat who has been called names.

Edwards and Obama have been called much worse things. I appreciate Alan&#039;s gesture, but I dislike efforts to single her out as a victim. Are the defenses of Clinton motivated in part by the assumption that women should be less subject to insults?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, guys, Clinton is not the only Democrat who has been called names.</p>
<p>Edwards and Obama have been called much worse things. I appreciate Alan&#8217;s gesture, but I dislike efforts to single her out as a victim. Are the defenses of Clinton motivated in part by the assumption that women should be less subject to insults?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been surprised at the strong reactions that Hillary Clinton seems to get, even long before she ran for the Senate.  I am convinced that some of this is gender based.

I wonder if Alan has spoken to Mike Ensley about this subject.  He has been particularly harsh about Sen. Clinton and has referred to her on his Spiritual Oddity site as Hitlery (?sp).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been surprised at the strong reactions that Hillary Clinton seems to get, even long before she ran for the Senate.  I am convinced that some of this is gender based.</p>
<p>I wonder if Alan has spoken to Mike Ensley about this subject.  He has been particularly harsh about Sen. Clinton and has referred to her on his Spiritual Oddity site as Hitlery (?sp).</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/11/29/1067/comment-page-1#comment-4498</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classy article, Alan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classy article, Alan.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chambers would say he DOES extend the same warmth to his queer brothers and sisters - and honestly, campaigning political is a very peaceful way to bring about the kind of change you want to bring about (e.g., a constitutional ban on same sex unions). But since he is such an advocate of religious freedom and of Christianity, he should stick to declaring God against us, instead of our own government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chambers would say he DOES extend the same warmth to his queer brothers and sisters &#8211; and honestly, campaigning political is a very peaceful way to bring about the kind of change you want to bring about (e.g., a constitutional ban on same sex unions). But since he is such an advocate of religious freedom and of Christianity, he should stick to declaring God against us, instead of our own government.</p>
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