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	<title>Comments on: Cameronite Updates: How To Cite Cameron Without Citing Cameron</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: The Story So Far&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How The Game Is Played&#8230;(continued)</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/12/01/1073/comment-page-1#comment-4585</link>
		<dc:creator>The Story So Far&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How The Game Is Played&#8230;(continued)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in right wing anti-gay propaganda, by citing someone else, who in turn cites Cameron.&#160; But this is a first [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in right wing anti-gay propaganda, by citing someone else, who in turn cites Cameron.&nbsp; But this is a first [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/12/01/1073/comment-page-1#comment-4584</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, that&#039;s what I thought, I just wanted it to be put out there so that anyone reading knows that this isn&#039;t just evasive, it&#039;s academically and journalistically unprofessional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, that&#8217;s what I thought, I just wanted it to be put out there so that anyone reading knows that this isn&#8217;t just evasive, it&#8217;s academically and journalistically unprofessional.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/12/01/1073/comment-page-1#comment-4573</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true, Jason is right. And if you can&#039;t get your hands on the original source, so you don&#039;t know what the original quote is, you&#039;re supposed to right &quot;Cameron qtd in [source]&quot; or something like that. That way you&#039;re giving credit to the original. Like all ex-gay &quot;scientists&quot; and &quot;researchers,&quot; they have terrible academic practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, Jason is right. And if you can&#8217;t get your hands on the original source, so you don&#8217;t know what the original quote is, you&#8217;re supposed to right &#8220;Cameron qtd in [source]&#8221; or something like that. That way you&#8217;re giving credit to the original. Like all ex-gay &#8220;scientists&#8221; and &#8220;researchers,&#8221; they have terrible academic practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/12/01/1073/comment-page-1#comment-4572</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it counts as trying to avoid naming your source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it counts as trying to avoid naming your source.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/12/01/1073/comment-page-1#comment-4571</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, you&#039;re right. Unless you absolutely can&#039;t get access to the original (which can&#039;t be true in this case), you really need to cite the original source. I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s technically &quot;plagiarism,&quot; but it&#039;s definitely bad form in anything vaguely academic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, you&#8217;re right. Unless you absolutely can&#8217;t get access to the original (which can&#8217;t be true in this case), you really need to cite the original source. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s technically &#8220;plagiarism,&#8221; but it&#8217;s definitely bad form in anything vaguely academic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/12/01/1073/comment-page-1#comment-4569</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correct me if I&#039;m wrong, as it&#039;s been years since I&#039;ve had to do proper citation, but aren&#039;t you supposed to cite the original author/paper/study unless you are talking about someone else&#039;s commentary on such?

Does this count as plagarism or is it just bad writing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, as it&#8217;s been years since I&#8217;ve had to do proper citation, but aren&#8217;t you supposed to cite the original author/paper/study unless you are talking about someone else&#8217;s commentary on such?</p>
<p>Does this count as plagarism or is it just bad writing?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2007/12/01/1073/comment-page-1#comment-4558</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 03:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think writing to Fuller Theological Seminary&#039;s psycology department to demand an explanation is in order. If a member of their faculty is going to engage in such dishonesty they should be forced to take action.

The school&#039;s address is:

Fuller Theological Seminary
135 N. Oakland Ave.
Pasadena, CA 91182</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think writing to Fuller Theological Seminary&#8217;s psycology department to demand an explanation is in order. If a member of their faculty is going to engage in such dishonesty they should be forced to take action.</p>
<p>The school&#8217;s address is:</p>
<p>Fuller Theological Seminary<br />
135 N. Oakland Ave.<br />
Pasadena, CA 91182</p>
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		<title>By: mcewen</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a group down here in south carolina did something like that.

they cited a book by thomas schmidt. but schmidt used cameron&#039;s work in the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a group down here in south carolina did something like that.</p>
<p>they cited a book by thomas schmidt. but schmidt used cameron&#8217;s work in the book.</p>
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