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		<title>By: The Column &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holy Constitution!</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/01/06/1249/comment-page-1#comment-9008</link>
		<dc:creator>The Column &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holy Constitution!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] titled &#8220;Character Is the Issue: How People With Integrity Can Revolutionize America,&#8221; warning starkly that in the struggle between secular and sectarian, &#8220;one worldview will [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Why do people keep making Huckabee talk about Jesus when he doesn&#8217;t want to?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Why do people keep making Huckabee talk about Jesus when he doesn&#8217;t want to?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] possible that all these people with Jesus on the brain are responding to this. Or this. Or this. Or this. Or this. Or comments like the one [...]</description>
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		<title>By: b</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/01/06/1249/comment-page-1#comment-5824</link>
		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason D,

I think you maybe meant Anita Bryant, not Anita Baker. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason D,</p>
<p>I think you maybe meant Anita Bryant, not Anita Baker. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me share the facts:

**Democrat CFR member Candidates:**
Barack Obama: Also, his wife Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR.
Hillary Clinton 
John Edwards 
Chris Dodd 
Bill Richardson 

**Republican CFR member Candidates:** 
Mitt Romney 
Rudy Giuliani 
John McCain 
Fred Thompson 
Newt Gingrich
Mike Huckabee: Huckabee is not a CFR member, though he named Richard Haas, president of the CFR, as his adviser on foreign policy. On Feb. 21, 2006, Hass wrote a column for the Taipei (China) Times titled, &quot;State Sovereignty Must Be Altered in Globalized Era.&quot; This is an explicit solicitation for global government. Here is the article --http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021

So what is the &quot;CFR&quot; anyway? 

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is David Rockefeller&#039;s private thinktank. This group has nothing to do with our government since it is entirely private. This group is pro-war and pro-North American Union (loss of American sovereignty and loss of Constitutional protections). You can read more about this group at --
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidates.htm

Here&#039;s a short video of a discussion between Dick Cheney (ex-director of CFR) and David Rockefeller, which reveals their close-knit ties --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me share the facts:</p>
<p>**Democrat CFR member Candidates:**<br />
Barack Obama: Also, his wife Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR.<br />
Hillary Clinton<br />
John Edwards<br />
Chris Dodd<br />
Bill Richardson </p>
<p>**Republican CFR member Candidates:**<br />
Mitt Romney<br />
Rudy Giuliani<br />
John McCain<br />
Fred Thompson<br />
Newt Gingrich<br />
Mike Huckabee: Huckabee is not a CFR member, though he named Richard Haas, president of the CFR, as his adviser on foreign policy. On Feb. 21, 2006, Hass wrote a column for the Taipei (China) Times titled, &#8220;State Sovereignty Must Be Altered in Globalized Era.&#8221; This is an explicit solicitation for global government. Here is the article &#8211;http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021</p>
<p>So what is the &#8220;CFR&#8221; anyway? </p>
<p>The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is David Rockefeller&#8217;s private thinktank. This group has nothing to do with our government since it is entirely private. This group is pro-war and pro-North American Union (loss of American sovereignty and loss of Constitutional protections). You can read more about this group at &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidates.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidates.htm</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a short video of a discussion between Dick Cheney (ex-director of CFR) and David Rockefeller, which reveals their close-knit ties &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Huckabee is scary&#8230; &#171; Later On</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/01/06/1249/comment-page-1#comment-5789</link>
		<dc:creator>Huckabee is scary&#8230; &#171; Later On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] titled &#8220;Character Is the Issue: How People With Integrity Can Revolutionize America,&#8221; warning starkly that in the struggle between secular and sectarian, &#8220;one worldview will [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 2008 Election: On the Candidates &#171; Hope2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>2008 Election: On the Candidates &#171; Hope2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More on Huckabee&#8217;s Reconstructionist Tendencies.  Or maybe simply a theocrat.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tee hee! Closet-case Muslim on our hands... :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tee hee! Closet-case Muslim on our hands&#8230; :-D</p>
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		<title>By: USpace</title>
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		<dc:creator>USpace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huckabye?  Huckabee wants to have adulterers, homosexuals and rape victims stoned to death. He also wants to make alcohol and music videos illegal, and make women 2nd class citizens and to take all girls out of school.

Oops, my bad, that&#039;s another &#039;religion&#039;.

Hey, anybody but the PIAPS!

if you’re MAD
punish your country
VOTE for Hillary


http://haltterrorism.com/

http://absurdthoughtsaboutgod.blogspot.com/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckabye?  Huckabee wants to have adulterers, homosexuals and rape victims stoned to death. He also wants to make alcohol and music videos illegal, and make women 2nd class citizens and to take all girls out of school.</p>
<p>Oops, my bad, that&#8217;s another &#8216;religion&#8217;.</p>
<p>Hey, anybody but the PIAPS!</p>
<p>if you’re MAD<br />
punish your country<br />
VOTE for Hillary</p>
<p><a href="http://haltterrorism.com/" rel="nofollow">http://haltterrorism.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://absurdthoughtsaboutgod.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://absurdthoughtsaboutgod.blogspot.com/</a><br />
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there even such a thing as a mulitant secularist?  Do they have a website or something?  Why haven&#039;t I ever heard of them, meanwhile Radical Christian Fundamentalists like say Oral Roberts, Richard Roberts, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, The Bakers(in the 80&#039;s), The Camerons, Paul Crouch, Billy Graham, Benny Hinn, D James Kennedy, Jimmy Swaggart, Joseph Nicolosi, James Dobson, Alan Keyes, Anita Baker, The Moral Majority, The Family Research Council, Exodus, PFOX, The AFA, Concerned Women For America --- on and on and on.

So where are these militant secularists, and why haven&#039;t I ever heard about them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there even such a thing as a mulitant secularist?  Do they have a website or something?  Why haven&#8217;t I ever heard of them, meanwhile Radical Christian Fundamentalists like say Oral Roberts, Richard Roberts, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, The Bakers(in the 80&#8217;s), The Camerons, Paul Crouch, Billy Graham, Benny Hinn, D James Kennedy, Jimmy Swaggart, Joseph Nicolosi, James Dobson, Alan Keyes, Anita Baker, The Moral Majority, The Family Research Council, Exodus, PFOX, The AFA, Concerned Women For America &#8212; on and on and on.</p>
<p>So where are these militant secularists, and why haven&#8217;t I ever heard about them?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynchburger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynchburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Informative piece.  Sort of.  Looks more like guilt by association to me.  Did you draw out a full range of connections Huckabee has had during his public career, or did you cherry-pick for a few nasties?  It seems you are really saying, see he&#039;s got these friends, and they believe these awful things, so Huck must be one of the co-conspirators.  Wouldn&#039;t hold up in court, my friend.  

But you do raise an important question: When does legitimate political involvement cross the line and become oppressive?  I don&#039;t think you tried to even answer that, and I know why.  It is a very hard question.  Should all us Christians and others of faith just shut up and sit quietly at the back of the bus?  No.  Should we try to take over and impose a Christian theocracy.  No.  That would be God&#039;s job, not mine.  Somewhere in the middle then, perhaps we can learn to live with each other.  We are required by our faith to serve our communities, social, political or otherwise.  Yet we are to be &quot;wise as serpents but harmless as doves.&quot;  So you can count on us sticking our noses into the policy debates in the public square, but please understand this, the reconstructionist movement is not good theology, and most knowledgeable Christians know it.  I have been at the epicenter of much of this.  I have had direct contact with some of the leading figures in the movement.  I know things the rest of you don&#039;t.  Trust me (if you can), militant secularism is a much greater threat to us than we are to it, at least from a political point of view.  You radical secularists, set your paranoia aside.  There are no dominionist Christians hiding under your bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Informative piece.  Sort of.  Looks more like guilt by association to me.  Did you draw out a full range of connections Huckabee has had during his public career, or did you cherry-pick for a few nasties?  It seems you are really saying, see he&#8217;s got these friends, and they believe these awful things, so Huck must be one of the co-conspirators.  Wouldn&#8217;t hold up in court, my friend.  </p>
<p>But you do raise an important question: When does legitimate political involvement cross the line and become oppressive?  I don&#8217;t think you tried to even answer that, and I know why.  It is a very hard question.  Should all us Christians and others of faith just shut up and sit quietly at the back of the bus?  No.  Should we try to take over and impose a Christian theocracy.  No.  That would be God&#8217;s job, not mine.  Somewhere in the middle then, perhaps we can learn to live with each other.  We are required by our faith to serve our communities, social, political or otherwise.  Yet we are to be &#8220;wise as serpents but harmless as doves.&#8221;  So you can count on us sticking our noses into the policy debates in the public square, but please understand this, the reconstructionist movement is not good theology, and most knowledgeable Christians know it.  I have been at the epicenter of much of this.  I have had direct contact with some of the leading figures in the movement.  I know things the rest of you don&#8217;t.  Trust me (if you can), militant secularism is a much greater threat to us than we are to it, at least from a political point of view.  You radical secularists, set your paranoia aside.  There are no dominionist Christians hiding under your bed.</p>
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