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	<title>Comments on: Huckabee: Amend Constitution to &#8220;God&#8217;s Standards&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wouldn&#039;t we also have to :

offer our daughters to angry mobs of rapists 

send women off into the wilderness during their &quot;monthly visitor&quot; 

destroy pretty much every cartoon character and piece of art (graven images)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wouldn&#8217;t we also have to :</p>
<p>offer our daughters to angry mobs of rapists </p>
<p>send women off into the wilderness during their &#8220;monthly visitor&#8221; </p>
<p>destroy pretty much every cartoon character and piece of art (graven images)</p>
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		<title>By: Suricou Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suricou Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ammendments required to reach &#039;God&#039;s Standard&#039; as seen by huckabee would be... just throwing some suggestions of what it would take..

1. Homosexual activity is forbidden.

2. Christianity to be declared official religion. Followers of any other religion or of none may not be US citizens.

3. Freedom of speech explicitly not to include speech that is offensive, sexual in nature, anti-christian or heretical.

4. To destroy an embryo or fetus or to take actions leading to the destruction of an embryo or fetus is equivilent to murder, and punishable by death. This includes embryos which have no chance of surviving to term, or when pregnency will result in the death of the mother.

5. Sexual relations outside of a recognised marriage are now prohibited.

6. The distribution, posession or use of contraception is prohibited, as these materials have no legitimate purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ammendments required to reach &#8216;God&#8217;s Standard&#8217; as seen by huckabee would be&#8230; just throwing some suggestions of what it would take..</p>
<p>1. Homosexual activity is forbidden.</p>
<p>2. Christianity to be declared official religion. Followers of any other religion or of none may not be US citizens.</p>
<p>3. Freedom of speech explicitly not to include speech that is offensive, sexual in nature, anti-christian or heretical.</p>
<p>4. To destroy an embryo or fetus or to take actions leading to the destruction of an embryo or fetus is equivilent to murder, and punishable by death. This includes embryos which have no chance of surviving to term, or when pregnency will result in the death of the mother.</p>
<p>5. Sexual relations outside of a recognised marriage are now prohibited.</p>
<p>6. The distribution, posession or use of contraception is prohibited, as these materials have no legitimate purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always tell people its not really aobut gay rights. It&#039;s about striaght rights as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always tell people its not really aobut gay rights. It&#8217;s about striaght rights as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard this earlier today and I thought maybe I misheard a reporter on MSNBC when he was talking to Chris Matthews. So I did hear correctly.

This is truly scary when you think that someone that wants to run the country wishes to change the constitution to bring it up to God&#039;s standards. But since Christians all cannot agree on theology and interpretation of Scripture what real chance does Huckabee have in raising God&#039;s &lt;b&gt;true&lt;/b&gt; standards?

In Isaiah 55 v. 8-9 specifically states that God&#039;s ways are not our ways and our thoughts are not his thoughts. But if you really look at what is being said by  Huckabee it his standards as well as those that agree with him that must be upheld and if it takes amending the Constitution to do it so be it. They in fact want their standards upheld and be law of the land.

Timothy, yes, it would go beyond gay marriage and abortion. I believe if they did reinstate anti-sodomy laws it could in fact encompass, any type of gay venue. No gay bars, gay shops, gay magazines, to the point where there is nothing left of gay anything. But it wouldn&#039;t stop there. They would go after anything &quot;they&quot; found offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard this earlier today and I thought maybe I misheard a reporter on MSNBC when he was talking to Chris Matthews. So I did hear correctly.</p>
<p>This is truly scary when you think that someone that wants to run the country wishes to change the constitution to bring it up to God&#8217;s standards. But since Christians all cannot agree on theology and interpretation of Scripture what real chance does Huckabee have in raising God&#8217;s <b>true</b> standards?</p>
<p>In Isaiah 55 v. 8-9 specifically states that God&#8217;s ways are not our ways and our thoughts are not his thoughts. But if you really look at what is being said by  Huckabee it his standards as well as those that agree with him that must be upheld and if it takes amending the Constitution to do it so be it. They in fact want their standards upheld and be law of the land.</p>
<p>Timothy, yes, it would go beyond gay marriage and abortion. I believe if they did reinstate anti-sodomy laws it could in fact encompass, any type of gay venue. No gay bars, gay shops, gay magazines, to the point where there is nothing left of gay anything. But it wouldn&#8217;t stop there. They would go after anything &#8220;they&#8221; found offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What real chance does Huckabee have at winning the Republican nomination? I don&#039;t understand why more Republicans aren&#039;t speaking up against this type of religious encroachment into government. Are they really so greedy for votes that they&#039;ll sacrafice everyone&#039;s freedoms? Surely this type of rhetoric is alarming to some of them as it is to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What real chance does Huckabee have at winning the Republican nomination? I don&#8217;t understand why more Republicans aren&#8217;t speaking up against this type of religious encroachment into government. Are they really so greedy for votes that they&#8217;ll sacrafice everyone&#8217;s freedoms? Surely this type of rhetoric is alarming to some of them as it is to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long &#039;til we get blamed for the backlash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long &#8217;til we get blamed for the backlash?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a step up from his Family Research Council Value Voters Summit comments:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I took some heat earlier this week for being asked a question at a house-party upin New Hampshire. And I was asked about the whole idea of accommodating sexual irresponsibility. And my point was that it is not the responsibility of taxpayers to accommodate someone’s risky behavior. And I made this clear that is you’re a basketball coach and you team isn’t playing very well, you don’t lower the goal to meet the level of your team’s play. You raise the level of your team’s play to meet the goal if you want to be a champion. (Applause.) We do not the right to move the standards of God to meet new cultural norms. We need to move the cultural norms to meet God’s standards.(Applause, cheers.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Clearly he isn&#039;t interested in stopping at abortion or gay marriage.  He thinks that the government need not &quot;accomodate sexual irresponsibility&quot; or &quot;risky behavior&quot;. I think that in addition to Roe v. Wade, he would insist that any of his appointments oppose Lawrence v. Texas as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a step up from his Family Research Council Value Voters Summit comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>I took some heat earlier this week for being asked a question at a house-party upin New Hampshire. And I was asked about the whole idea of accommodating sexual irresponsibility. And my point was that it is not the responsibility of taxpayers to accommodate someone’s risky behavior. And I made this clear that is you’re a basketball coach and you team isn’t playing very well, you don’t lower the goal to meet the level of your team’s play. You raise the level of your team’s play to meet the goal if you want to be a champion. (Applause.) We do not the right to move the standards of God to meet new cultural norms. We need to move the cultural norms to meet God’s standards.(Applause, cheers.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Clearly he isn&#8217;t interested in stopping at abortion or gay marriage.  He thinks that the government need not &#8220;accomodate sexual irresponsibility&#8221; or &#8220;risky behavior&#8221;. I think that in addition to Roe v. Wade, he would insist that any of his appointments oppose Lawrence v. Texas as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Iovino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Iovino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Republicans Barry Goldwater and Teddy Roosevelt warned us about injecting religion into American politics. After the decimation of our party by W and Lott and Delay and the rest of the Southern Republicans, if Huckabee is the nominee I fear they&#039;ll be no more GOP north of the Mason-Dixon. The last Republican in NY, please shut out the lights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Republicans Barry Goldwater and Teddy Roosevelt warned us about injecting religion into American politics. After the decimation of our party by W and Lott and Delay and the rest of the Southern Republicans, if Huckabee is the nominee I fear they&#8217;ll be no more GOP north of the Mason-Dixon. The last Republican in NY, please shut out the lights.</p>
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