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	<title>Comments on: Conditions Remain Frightening for Gays in Jamaica</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-49520</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mee too,

When your country is as beautiful in the hearts of its residents as it is in its beaches and mountains, then it will be a beautiful country indeed. In the meanwhile, your insults only show that the culture on that island continues to be full of hatred, cruelty, murder, and self-pity.

I find it telling that you are deeply offended that someone might insult your flag but not even the slightest bit concerned that your nation is violently hate-driven and is a real threat to any gay persons, resident or visitor, that ventures there.

Until your nation changes its culture, something that you obviously have no interest in, it is my duty to warn gay tourists and their families and friends to avoid the threat that comes from you and your neighbors and to take their tourist dollars to somewhere safer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mee too,</p>
<p>When your country is as beautiful in the hearts of its residents as it is in its beaches and mountains, then it will be a beautiful country indeed. In the meanwhile, your insults only show that the culture on that island continues to be full of hatred, cruelty, murder, and self-pity.</p>
<p>I find it telling that you are deeply offended that someone might insult your flag but not even the slightest bit concerned that your nation is violently hate-driven and is a real threat to any gay persons, resident or visitor, that ventures there.</p>
<p>Until your nation changes its culture, something that you obviously have no interest in, it is my duty to warn gay tourists and their families and friends to avoid the threat that comes from you and your neighbors and to take their tourist dollars to somewhere safer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mee too</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-49517</link>
		<dc:creator>Mee too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Encouraging to hear&quot;

How patronising, when it is you who is the ignorant fool who wouldn&#039;t care to look at the whole picture but choose the most negative part and give yourself the right to DEFACE my beautiful country&#039;s flag.

You&#039;re really not helping yourself here, and you&#039;re too dumb to realise it.  You are not encouraging change (in the isolated parts where these crimes are carried out), you are just offending people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Encouraging to hear&#8221;</p>
<p>How patronising, when it is you who is the ignorant fool who wouldn&#8217;t care to look at the whole picture but choose the most negative part and give yourself the right to DEFACE my beautiful country&#8217;s flag.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re really not helping yourself here, and you&#8217;re too dumb to realise it.  You are not encouraging change (in the isolated parts where these crimes are carried out), you are just offending people</p>
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		<title>By: beyonce knowles</title>
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		<dc:creator>beyonce knowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bunch of twats 
aaaaag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bunch of twats<br />
aaaaag</p>
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		<title>By: whitney</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-36344</link>
		<dc:creator>whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm ..
you have to be so complciated 
bbut if thats how u wanna roll then fair  enough,x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm ..<br />
you have to be so complciated<br />
bbut if thats how u wanna roll then fair  enough,x</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-36332</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, whitney, I will not delete this picture until Jamaica ceases to be the cradle of bigotry, hatred and violence that it is today.

Let&#039;s hope, pray, and work towards the day that freedom, respect, and equality comes to that beautiful nation and it no longer deserves to be known to all nations by its bloodstained flag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, whitney, I will not delete this picture until Jamaica ceases to be the cradle of bigotry, hatred and violence that it is today.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope, pray, and work towards the day that freedom, respect, and equality comes to that beautiful nation and it no longer deserves to be known to all nations by its bloodstained flag.</p>
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		<title>By: whitney</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-36324</link>
		<dc:creator>whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well thanyou and could you please delte this picture :@:@</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well thanyou and could you please delte this picture :@:@</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-36258</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whitney,

That is encouraging to hear.  I wish your uncle well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whitney,</p>
<p>That is encouraging to hear.  I wish your uncle well.</p>
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		<title>By: whitney</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i understand where you are coming from and i now understand the point you are making.
however .
not all parts of jamaca are a threat 
i have  a gay uncle who lives in jamaica and he is absoloutley fine out there he has been  living htere for 4 and a halve years now and he is still alive and well.
ino what you meen but not all parts are as much homophobic as others
trust me
wb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i understand where you are coming from and i now understand the point you are making.<br />
however .<br />
not all parts of jamaca are a threat<br />
i have  a gay uncle who lives in jamaica and he is absoloutley fine out there he has been  living htere for 4 and a halve years now and he is still alive and well.<br />
ino what you meen but not all parts are as much homophobic as others<br />
trust me<br />
wb</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-36026</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whitney,

My concern is not that some Jamaican people are nice regardless of race.  I believe that to be true.

My concern is, rather, that Jamaicans are violent and hostile to those persons they think may be gay or lesbian.  It doesn&#039;t matter what color one may be, if you&#039;re gay then Jamaica is a threat to your life.

The reason I focus on Jamaica is that it stands alone in the Americas as the most hateful and violent against gays.  It is true that some other Caribbean islands are hostile, but at least there the police, the political authorities, and the religious leaders all speak out against violence.  On Jamaica, they excuse it.

A few years ago Time Magazine named Jamaica as the most homophobic place on the planet.  And just this past week the Council on Global Equality extracted from the US State Department&#039;s Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2008 and listed the ten worst countries on human rights for gay people.  Jamaica was the only one in the Western Hemisphere.

I know that it offends you that I&#039;ve identified Jamaica in such a way.  But there is a solution.

When the people of Jamaica have had enough, when they are tired of the rest of the world condemning their violence, when they are through being viewed as a dangerous hostile place with bloodstained hands, then they can change.

And when Jamaica changes, then I will no longer portray it as a nation whose flag is drenched in the blood of innocent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whitney,</p>
<p>My concern is not that some Jamaican people are nice regardless of race.  I believe that to be true.</p>
<p>My concern is, rather, that Jamaicans are violent and hostile to those persons they think may be gay or lesbian.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what color one may be, if you&#8217;re gay then Jamaica is a threat to your life.</p>
<p>The reason I focus on Jamaica is that it stands alone in the Americas as the most hateful and violent against gays.  It is true that some other Caribbean islands are hostile, but at least there the police, the political authorities, and the religious leaders all speak out against violence.  On Jamaica, they excuse it.</p>
<p>A few years ago Time Magazine named Jamaica as the most homophobic place on the planet.  And just this past week the Council on Global Equality extracted from the US State Department&#8217;s Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2008 and listed the ten worst countries on human rights for gay people.  Jamaica was the only one in the Western Hemisphere.</p>
<p>I know that it offends you that I&#8217;ve identified Jamaica in such a way.  But there is a solution.</p>
<p>When the people of Jamaica have had enough, when they are tired of the rest of the world condemning their violence, when they are through being viewed as a dangerous hostile place with bloodstained hands, then they can change.</p>
<p>And when Jamaica changes, then I will no longer portray it as a nation whose flag is drenched in the blood of innocent people.</p>
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		<title>By: whitney</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/02/01/1379/comment-page-1#comment-36022</link>
		<dc:creator>whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes Timothy Kincaid i know what you are saying and i was not thinking straight at the time i was very angry and upset as any body would be .


ino what them people did was very rong and maybe in SOME parts of jamaica are like that but that does not mean that all parts  are . It is dangerous but dont mean all of the people are.
some jamacian people are very nice and welcoming to the community black,white,or asain.
the colour doesnt matter,
we are from one race and on race ONLY!
and hwy just target jamacia ther are plent of toher sights about this 
and would you delete this picture i really am offneed by this really.
but, you have to do what you have to do and what them people did was veryveryvery bad.
and i dont no what person/s in the right mind would do such things.
thankyou.
whitney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes Timothy Kincaid i know what you are saying and i was not thinking straight at the time i was very angry and upset as any body would be .</p>
<p>ino what them people did was very rong and maybe in SOME parts of jamaica are like that but that does not mean that all parts  are . It is dangerous but dont mean all of the people are.<br />
some jamacian people are very nice and welcoming to the community black,white,or asain.<br />
the colour doesnt matter,<br />
we are from one race and on race ONLY!<br />
and hwy just target jamacia ther are plent of toher sights about this<br />
and would you delete this picture i really am offneed by this really.<br />
but, you have to do what you have to do and what them people did was veryveryvery bad.<br />
and i dont no what person/s in the right mind would do such things.<br />
thankyou.<br />
whitney.</p>
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