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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyFebruary 1st, 2008
Human Rights Watch reports:
On the evening of January 29, a group of men approached a house where four males lived in the central Jamaican town of Mandeville, and demanded that they leave the community because they were gay, according to human rights defenders who spoke with the victims. Later that evening, a mob returned and surrounded the house. The four men inside called the police when they saw the crowd gathering; the mob started to attack the house, shouting and throwing bottles. Those in the house called police again and were told that the police were on the way. Approximately half an hour later, 15-20 men broke down the door and began beating and slashing the inhabitants.
Human rights defenders who spoke to the victims also reported that police arrived half an hour after the mob had broken into the house – 90 minutes after the men first called for help. One of the victims managed to flee with the mob pursuing. A Jamaican newspaper reported that blood was found at the mouth of a nearby pit, suggesting he had fallen inside or may have been killed nearby. The police escorted the three other victims away from the scene; two of them were taken to the hospital. One of the men had his left ear severed, his arm broken in two places, and his spine reportedly damaged.
A Warning – this is not a place that is safe for anyone to visit. Those societies that encourage violence seldom stop with a single victim. One should not assume that you may not be the next target.
A Question – do those media outlets that run advertisments singing, “Come to Jamaica and Feel Alright” yet which refuse to report the ongoing campaign of terror against gay persons on the island have any responsibility should a gay tourist be hurt or killed?
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David
February 2nd, 2008
Question:Do those media outlets that run advertisments singing, “Come to Jamaica and Feel Alright†yet which refuse to report the ongoing campaign of terror against gay persons on the island have any responsibility should a gay tourist be hurt or killed?
Answer:Yes!
What you said about Jamaica not being a safe place for anyone to visit is true. So any media outlet that plays Jamaica’s tourism ads should be ashamed of itself.
Randi Schimnosky
February 2nd, 2008
I agree. If this was any other minority group getting attacked it would be all over the media and travel advisements would say to avoid Jamaica.
Andre Dunkley
March 7th, 2009
Jamaica is a safe place to visit just that we do not support the immoral and sadomistic behaviours of gays,and we will not let litttle tourists dollars erase our culture- wasnt slavery enough for u people.If u are STRAIGHT its safe to come on the island in the sun-jamaica.u gays need Jesus.
Andre Dunkley
March 7th, 2009
we do not support the immoral and sadomistic behaviours of gays,and we will not let litttle tourists dollars erase our culture- wasnt slavery enough for u people.If u are STRAIGHT its safe to come on the island in the sun-jamaica.u gays need Jesus.
Priya Lynn
March 7th, 2009
If the most peaceful and gentle of people are not safe in Jamaica no one is safe in Jamaica. Stay away from Jamaica – don’t support the evil promoted there.
Timothy Kincaid
March 7th, 2009
Andre,
Don’t worry about tourist dollars erasing your hateful and violent culture. A growing number of tourists are now unwilling to give you any.
whitney
March 9th, 2009
everyone,
i am from a jamaican community myslef and i dont no what an earth you think you are going on about,
this site is so hypicritical.
i no what them men did was very very rong ,
however i dont beleive it is right to stereotypicaly talk about the “jamaican” tradition in this way.
not every jamaican person is ” bad ” towards gay people.
it could of happened anywhere not just in jamaica do people not like gay people.
it is what people choose to beleive in.
and you having a conversation about violence in jamaica and then go and put a flag on the internet of blood on a jamaican flag.
you are no better yourself.
so how about shut up and stop being stereotypical >:(
whitney
March 9th, 2009
Priya Lynn says –
If the most peaceful and gentle of people are not safe in Jamaica no one is safe in Jamaica. Stay away from Jamaica – don’t support the evil promoted there.
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what a load of rubbish.
i am very upset and offended by this website and i am in the right mind to complain.
do not stay away from jamacia it is gorjeous and the people there are lovely no matter what nationality you are !
Timothy Kincaid
March 9th, 2009
Thank you, Whitney, for another illustration of the attitudes that dominate the Jamican culture.
You have absolutely no sense of outrage over the violent and hateful behavior of Jamaicans and will do nothing to reverse it. You only seek to defend, excuse, and justify evil.
You are an excellent example of why people of all orientation should stay away from that dangerous place. Clearly Jamaicans will excuse anything, no matter how vile, that is done in Jamaica.
whitney
March 10th, 2009
yes Timothy Kincaid i know what you are saying and i was not thinking straight at the time i was very angry and upset as any body would be .
ino what them people did was very rong and maybe in SOME parts of jamaica are like that but that does not mean that all parts are . It is dangerous but dont mean all of the people are.
some jamacian people are very nice and welcoming to the community black,white,or asain.
the colour doesnt matter,
we are from one race and on race ONLY!
and hwy just target jamacia ther are plent of toher sights about this
and would you delete this picture i really am offneed by this really.
but, you have to do what you have to do and what them people did was veryveryvery bad.
and i dont no what person/s in the right mind would do such things.
thankyou.
whitney.
Timothy Kincaid
March 10th, 2009
whitney,
My concern is not that some Jamaican people are nice regardless of race. I believe that to be true.
My concern is, rather, that Jamaicans are violent and hostile to those persons they think may be gay or lesbian. It doesn’t matter what color one may be, if you’re gay then Jamaica is a threat to your life.
The reason I focus on Jamaica is that it stands alone in the Americas as the most hateful and violent against gays. It is true that some other Caribbean islands are hostile, but at least there the police, the political authorities, and the religious leaders all speak out against violence. On Jamaica, they excuse it.
A few years ago Time Magazine named Jamaica as the most homophobic place on the planet. And just this past week the Council on Global Equality extracted from the US State Department’s Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2008 and listed the ten worst countries on human rights for gay people. Jamaica was the only one in the Western Hemisphere.
I know that it offends you that I’ve identified Jamaica in such a way. But there is a solution.
When the people of Jamaica have had enough, when they are tired of the rest of the world condemning their violence, when they are through being viewed as a dangerous hostile place with bloodstained hands, then they can change.
And when Jamaica changes, then I will no longer portray it as a nation whose flag is drenched in the blood of innocent people.
whitney
March 12th, 2009
yes i understand where you are coming from and i now understand the point you are making.
however .
not all parts of jamaca are a threat
i have a gay uncle who lives in jamaica and he is absoloutley fine out there he has been living htere for 4 and a halve years now and he is still alive and well.
ino what you meen but not all parts are as much homophobic as others
trust me
wb
Timothy Kincaid
March 12th, 2009
whitney,
That is encouraging to hear. I wish your uncle well.
whitney
March 13th, 2009
well thanyou and could you please delte this picture :@:@
Timothy Kincaid
March 13th, 2009
No, whitney, I will not delete this picture until Jamaica ceases to be the cradle of bigotry, hatred and violence that it is today.
Let’s hope, pray, and work towards the day that freedom, respect, and equality comes to that beautiful nation and it no longer deserves to be known to all nations by its bloodstained flag.
whitney
March 13th, 2009
hmm ..
you have to be so complciated
bbut if thats how u wanna roll then fair enough,x
beyonce knowles
March 30th, 2009
bunch of twats
aaaaag
Mee too
September 10th, 2009
“Encouraging to hear”
How patronising, when it is you who is the ignorant fool who wouldn’t care to look at the whole picture but choose the most negative part and give yourself the right to DEFACE my beautiful country’s flag.
You’re really not helping yourself here, and you’re too dumb to realise it. You are not encouraging change (in the isolated parts where these crimes are carried out), you are just offending people
Timothy Kincaid
September 10th, 2009
Mee too,
When your country is as beautiful in the hearts of its residents as it is in its beaches and mountains, then it will be a beautiful country indeed. In the meanwhile, your insults only show that the culture on that island continues to be full of hatred, cruelty, murder, and self-pity.
I find it telling that you are deeply offended that someone might insult your flag but not even the slightest bit concerned that your nation is violently hate-driven and is a real threat to any gay persons, resident or visitor, that ventures there.
Until your nation changes its culture, something that you obviously have no interest in, it is my duty to warn gay tourists and their families and friends to avoid the threat that comes from you and your neighbors and to take their tourist dollars to somewhere safer.
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