Comments on: John Smid’s Vagina Monologue

By: Dick

Dick — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:15:35 +0000

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By: William

William — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:54:27 +0000

On the other hand, one of NARTH’s documents, “Adolescent Homosexuality” by Dr. Sander Breiner, suggests “[t]he total absence of masturbation or late onset of masturbation with no manifest heterosexual interests” as a possible indicator of “Teen Homosexual Problems”.

http://www.narth.com/docs/breiner2.html

By: Emily K

Emily K — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:46:57 +0000

I can’t believe fundies would take THAT BIZARRE a view of masturbation. do they seriously think that everyone who masturbates is doing so to a same sex fantasy? that is so stilted and odd.

By: William

William — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:45:40 +0000

Yes, Priya lynn, you’re right. Tim LaHaye states that early and heavy masturbation is one of the causes of homosexuality in his trashy and pernicious book “What Everyone Should Know about Homosexuality” (formerly entitled “The Unhappy Gays”). Exactly how early he didn’t say, nor did he specify how often you have to do it for it to count as “heavy”.

I think Jim’s observation that the trick patently doesn’t work for the vast majority of people in America (or anywhere else, for that matter) is ample refutation. But I suppose some could always argue – or speculate – that it causes homosexuality only if you do it more than x times per week.

By: Priya lynn

Priya lynn — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:28:40 +0000

Emily, I’ve heard fundamentalists make exactly that argument that masturbation causes gayness. The say masturbation is a same sex act so once you start masturbating you are engaging in gayness.

By: Emily K

Emily K — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:36:43 +0000

I don’t think they’re saying masturbation directly causes homosexuality – I think they believe masturbation is a deviant sexual act (or at least “chronic” masturbation is) and that will lead naturally to OTHER “deviant” sexual activities, like homosexuality. Basically if a human can be led “astray” sexually in one way, they can be led astray sexually in all ways.

By: Leo

Leo — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:18:35 +0000

The whole thing is incoherent.

As Jim points out gays are probably around what—4 percent of the population? If there was a direct link between masturbation and homosexuality the percentage would be somewhere closer to what—98% or higher? We’d own the world.

Are these people really asserting that only around 4 percent of the population masturbates? Are they that divorced from their own bodies? How dismal.

Do they imagine the multi-billion dollar porn industry is supported by just the 4 percent of the population that is gay?

Who’s buying/renting all those hetero-porn DVDs and “toys” and what do they imagine those people do with them?

Tight underware? LOL. If that was true most all of the men in Europe and Latin America would be gay.

How could anybody listen to this man and not conclude that he was either a con-artist or in profound need of help himself?

It seems so obvious that these groups prey on people who are under duress. No one in a lucid frame of mind and who has a broader/informed frame of reference on matters sexual could possibly find any of this credible.

By: Craig L. Adams

Craig L. Adams — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:38:00 +0000

Yes. This is disturbed, disturbing and bizarre. Thanks for posting this, Jim.

By: Pandagon :: Ex-gay therapist on the evils of spanking the monkey :: February :: 2008

Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:34:50 +0000

[...] will leave it to Box Turtle Bulletin’s Jim Burroway to do the lead in on this clip of “ex-gay” outfit Love In Action [...]

By: quo III

quo III — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:27:27 +0000

About those Love in Action rules – I was bemused to see that they insist men in the program must be clean shaven. Men’s facial hair is one of the things that distinguishes them from women, so wouldn’t it be more logical to make it compulsory?