My own story is that I’ve felt different in my early childhood and, at the age of 8, I discovered I was the wrong sex. This has never gone away and has created anguish during some portions of my life. Thankfully, I can have this corrected with hormones and surgery. It might be considered mutilation to some but it’s a complete necessity for me. I have read that homosexuals have had similar experiences in that they’ve known, even as a child, that they were different. My heart goes out to them.

1) There can’t be a vaccine, since a vaccine is weakened or dead form of an organism. No parasite, virus, bacteria or other organism is involved in homosexuality, lesbianism, or transsexuals.

2) A pill is also a wasted notion as these three phenomenon have been ruled to not be pathogens. Additionally if any of these phenomenons were simple enough to cure with a pill, it would’ve been done so. Every day we find more wrinkles about the complexity of human sexuality.

“& have no doubt that many people who suffer from GID will take the the cure. The same with homosexuality & lesbianism.”

For there to be a cure, there has to be a disease. I am not diseased. I am not suffering because I refuse to let anyone tell me there’s something wrong with me because I share a deep and beautiful bond with another man. He has brought nothing but joy to my life, and there is no science that can prove otherwise. There is no spirituality that can convince me that love is wrong between two consenting adults.
Long ago it was discovered that the “suffering” homosexuals endured was at the hands of an uncaring, unfriendly, and often violent society.
But as you can see, that has been changing, and so too has the mental health of gays in America, to the point where nobody bothers doing studies on how well we are because all of the data has been convergent. We’re fine, thanks.

With no disease, no virus, no bacteria, and no pathology, what exactly is there to cure?

Cowboy, the Truth is that what GLSEN, GSA & the other groups you imply really aren’t interested in open discussion. Tammy Bruce said that groups like GLSEN have no place on school campuses because dialogue isn’t what they want, but rather proselytize. Tammy Bruce is 1 of the few lesbians & exceptions in the mainstream media who deserves credit for warning adults about the agendas of groups such as GLSEN & to not be fooled by their euphemisms.

Honestly, there are few in the press, incl. Fox News who honestly discuss this. On Fox News, Bill O’Reilly, Martha McCallum & the guests usu. repeat your views, often times with 1 sided views though sometimes opposing views are given. Even Sean Hannity usu. takes an easy approach to these topics. When differing views such as that of Sandy Rios & Patrick J. Buchanan are given on Fox News, it’s almost always involves balancing by some1 who shares your view. The only other journalist I can think of in the mainstream press who is fair on the topic of homosexuality is Laura Ingraham who incidentally has a gay brother.

I don’t watch much TV or the press anymore because politics & sensationalism often trumps facts. Another eg. of press 1/2 truths is the OJ Simpson case. Now I thought that there were reasonable doubts, but I’m not saying that he was innocent. If OJ Simpson did it, then it most likely was 2nd Degree murder caused by provocation, because I don’t think it was planned. Ordinary people can commit murder if given the circumstances, but the prosecutors didn’t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. But whether or not he did it, Bill O’Reilly repeats the same 1/2 truths about the trial, such as that OJ Simpson was acquitted because of the race card, which is rubbish. Bill O’Reilly usu. doesn’t have guests who saw the entire trial & have reasonable doubts, but rather the same guests who repeat the same things, because he implies that he doesn’t want honest discussion.

I’m sorry for going into unrelated topics, but my point remains that I try to avoid watching the press coverage, because they seem to be more interested in advancing agendas, than the truth. Though I oppose U.S. intervention in Iraq because it didn’t help American interests, I also get tired of reading the biased coverage of this, which is why I avoid what most reporters write about it.

The topic of homosexuality, the discussions of Mormonism are topics which I now try to avoid the mainstream press coverage. The Mormon Church did issue statements pointing out the wrong conclusions given by the Salt Lake Tribune surrounding the Danzigs. But the fact remains that the 1st thing the mainstream press does is present 1/2 true accounts of the Danzig case because on certain topics, the mainstream press usu. doesn’t care about the facts.

Mormons have a right to legislate against behaviors that they see as bad. Incidentally, I have been to Utah-Zion Natl. Park & Bryce Canyon. If you want to know why I have so much time writing on websites, it’s because I’m chronically unemployed. I once wanted to be a history teacher, but I’ve been fired so many times because jobs get boring & people accuse me of being puerile. Mormons often speak different languages such as Chinese, Korean, Japanese. Many Mormon missionaries go to Spain, Korea, & other nations.

The critiques that I’ve been reading about Mormons happen because you don’t like the views that Mormons espouse, but I share their views on some topics. Incidentally though the Holocaust wasn’t raised on this forum, I would have no problem if schools allowed the views of those who were in the Einsatzgruppen (if there are any still alive) speak. I write this because the Einsatzgruppen are also Holocaust witnesses, only that they committed it. Why did they shoot & kill Jews-men, women & children in the ditches? If we’re going to have all eyewitness accounts of the Holocaust, then it should also incl. the views of those who did the killings. I know my comments about the Holocaust may anger some people but if you want to know why it happened then even the accounts of the killers have to be heard.

I don’t want to go endlessly about sex changes, but I will say that if you care about ending animal cruelty, then you’ll favor abolishing sex changes, because they were 1st done on animals. You know what I wrote about Martina Navratilova.

People such as Timothy Kincaid don’t think it should even be an option.

You have been admonished not to make claims that cannot be substantiated. The above claim is absolutely untrue.

He/she speaks as if he/she has the ultimate insight into Mormonism. Does notreligious comprehend there might be people here who are Mormon? The arrogance.

Notreligiousbutmw speaking about gays typed: I don’t like people pushing their beliefs on me.

Apparently he hasn’t lived in Utah. Every day is a struggle for gays to fight for respect in their communities here in Utah. I suggest notreligiousbutmw read the last two 40 days of news relating to Utah legislature and their proposals in dealing with gay issues. If you want, I’ll supply the references to some rather beefier quotes from my representatives at the Capitol but let’s just say “fear-mongering” is just the tip of the problem we have in Utah.

And let’s not try to pull a switcheroo on us…trying to make the oppressors become the oppressed. Living as a gay person in Utah is pure hell. The discussion of any mention of even the word: “homosexual” is taboo! Utah was and still is a major battlefield in the war on gay-straight alliances clubs. How dare you suggest Mormons are being open and honest in their dealings with gays.

Notreligousbutmw typed: @least the Mormons are willing to have dialogue with those who differ.

Oh really? Why then was it in the news that the newly elected Prophet T.S. Monson will not even acknowledge a rather benign association of ex-gay (recovering) Mormons called Affirmation? (I’ll have you search the Salt Lake Tribune archives for the article.) Have they made any outreach to their once favored Carol Lynn Pearson after she wrote about her gay husband? (You’ll have to read Ms. Pearson’s books about that.) Better yet, why not attend a performance of “Facing East”. Get back to me about Mormons willing to have a dialogue with those who differ after you see this play.

I just hope these crumbs are not too bitter to swallow.

I will have to ask you to refrain from calling gender reassignment surgery as “sex change mutilations.” The proper term is gender reassignment surgery. The term you are using is not only incorrect, but deeply offensive. You also seem to be confusing homosexuality with GID. The two have little to nothing to do with each other. I suggest you educate yourself further by actually talking and dialoguing with people, rather than engaging in monologues which are clearly ill-informed albiet passionately held.

If you cannot be civil, you will be placed on moderation.

It’s been my observation that the homosexuals & lesbians who seek repair therapy, do so because they’re not happy about who they are. Yes, some are pressued by family & religous ministers, but the majority do so because they want to be straight. People such as Timothy Kincaid don’t think it should even be an option. I commend the Mormons, the Spaniards who protested in Spain against gay marriages & the highschool students who don’t listen to what PFLAG says in public schools but speak their mind. Even some homosexuals & lesbians such as Tammy Bruce have spoken against PFLAG using schools to push their views on youths. Does PFLAG really think that they’re telling the pupils anything that they haven’t already heard ? I commend the pupils who anger PFLAG.

Tammy Bruce is 1 of the few lesbians who is honestly discussing homosexuality & she changed her views from what she believed as a talkshow hostess on KFI from 1994-98. Now I haven’t always agreed with Tammy Bruce, such as I differ with her on the death penalty (I don’t believe in most cases the death penalty should be used, perhaps Tammy Bruce feels the same way) & I don’t agree with Tammy Bruce on the Iraq intervention-yes Saddam Hussein’s an evil man, but we should not have gone into Iraq nor stayed very long. But I commend Tammy Bruce for reevaluating & criticizing PFLAG & GLSEN. Tammy Bruce is 1 of the exceptions who has said that it’s not hating homosexuals to be against same sex behaviors.

For that matter we don’t care why you changed your views on gayness, you are unimportant. That you based your disapproval of gayness not on any rational reason, but on the fact that some gays told you their views shows you have no valid reasons for your hate, you’d hate gayness regardless of how harmless it may be or how much it benefits the people who are that way.