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	<title>Comments on: A Young Man Fights Back Against The Christian Counselor He&#8217;s Sent To By His Parents</title>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/24/1693/comment-page-1#comment-8234</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Jason D, you are right on. Please everybody, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Jason D, you are right on. Please everybody, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/24/1693/comment-page-1#comment-8229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>notreligiousbutmw,

I can&#039;t speak for anyone else, but I don&#039;t take your posts seriously because your writing is full of spelling errors, word usage errors, lack of punctuation, run-on sentences, neverending paragraphs that wander aimlessly, and text-message-style shorthand.</description>
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<p>I can&#8217;t speak for anyone else, but I don&#8217;t take your posts seriously because your writing is full of spelling errors, word usage errors, lack of punctuation, run-on sentences, neverending paragraphs that wander aimlessly, and text-message-style shorthand.</p>
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		<title>By: notreligiousbutmw</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/24/1693/comment-page-1#comment-8220</link>
		<dc:creator>notreligiousbutmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy Kincaid, you again write as if I was born in 1999 by repeating what I&#039;ve heard before from the Amercian Medical Association (AMA), a group whom I have contempt for. I know the AMA&#039;s arrogance (they think they know the answers because they&#039;re Drs.)on a topic which the experts comprehend so little about &amp; where politics have dominated the topic.  Yes, the repair therapists (r.t.)have their own biases such as religious, but they&#039;re upfront about where they stand. But Dr. Spitzer who is an atheist has said that while people shouldn&#039;t be forced into repair therapy (which doesn&#039;t happen anyhow in the U.S.), that for pyschologists to not offer r.t. to those who want to be straight is professional hubris. Repair therapists are also required to tell parents as they did to Jeff Williamson&#039;s, that in order to offer repair therapy, the youths have to want it for themselves &amp; that it&#039;s ultimately the youth&#039;s call. 

Jeff Williamson&#039;s parents did the right thing by asking their son to  see a repair therapist &amp; @least hear a different view.  Jeff Williamson didn&#039;t want r.t., but that doesn&#039;t mean that later in life he won&#039;t change his mind. For every Jeff Williamson you write about, there are youths who see repair therapists because they want to be straight &amp; differed with their 1st therapists who pompously told them that affirmation is the only option. Incidentally, I don&#039;t think affirmation therapy is needed for homosexuality, just as I don&#039;t believe affirmation is needed for obesity or drug use.  If some1 wants to be a homosexual or lesbian behaviorally, whether or not orientation changes all they have to do is behaviorally engage in it.  Your thoughts are again welcome, but keep in mind that you won&#039;t raise anything significantly new which I haven&#039;t heard before. Of course, this topic has been discussed so many times, that it&#039;s hard to think of new ideas other than doing reruns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Kincaid, you again write as if I was born in 1999 by repeating what I&#8217;ve heard before from the Amercian Medical Association (AMA), a group whom I have contempt for. I know the AMA&#8217;s arrogance (they think they know the answers because they&#8217;re Drs.)on a topic which the experts comprehend so little about &amp; where politics have dominated the topic.  Yes, the repair therapists (r.t.)have their own biases such as religious, but they&#8217;re upfront about where they stand. But Dr. Spitzer who is an atheist has said that while people shouldn&#8217;t be forced into repair therapy (which doesn&#8217;t happen anyhow in the U.S.), that for pyschologists to not offer r.t. to those who want to be straight is professional hubris. Repair therapists are also required to tell parents as they did to Jeff Williamson&#8217;s, that in order to offer repair therapy, the youths have to want it for themselves &amp; that it&#8217;s ultimately the youth&#8217;s call. </p>
<p>Jeff Williamson&#8217;s parents did the right thing by asking their son to  see a repair therapist &amp; @least hear a different view.  Jeff Williamson didn&#8217;t want r.t., but that doesn&#8217;t mean that later in life he won&#8217;t change his mind. For every Jeff Williamson you write about, there are youths who see repair therapists because they want to be straight &amp; differed with their 1st therapists who pompously told them that affirmation is the only option. Incidentally, I don&#8217;t think affirmation therapy is needed for homosexuality, just as I don&#8217;t believe affirmation is needed for obesity or drug use.  If some1 wants to be a homosexual or lesbian behaviorally, whether or not orientation changes all they have to do is behaviorally engage in it.  Your thoughts are again welcome, but keep in mind that you won&#8217;t raise anything significantly new which I haven&#8217;t heard before. Of course, this topic has been discussed so many times, that it&#8217;s hard to think of new ideas other than doing reruns.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/24/1693/comment-page-1#comment-8212</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, Daniel and Ashpenaz.  I forgot them.

While they may well have not had what we would consider a consumated gay relationship (both were eunichs), they were definitely both outside the heterosexual norm.  

Funny how often the heros of the Bible didn&#039;t conform to the norm, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, Daniel and Ashpenaz.  I forgot them.</p>
<p>While they may well have not had what we would consider a consumated gay relationship (both were eunichs), they were definitely both outside the heterosexual norm.  </p>
<p>Funny how often the heros of the Bible didn&#8217;t conform to the norm, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching the video I e-mailed Jeff to congratulate him on how well he handled the session with Hudson and to ask about those 3 gay relationships.

He replied and told me that the relationships he had in mind are:

1. Ruth &amp; Naomi

2. Daniel &amp; Ashpenaz

3. David &amp; Jonathan

He also stated that from the Bible&#039;s text it is &quot;difficult if not impossible to truly determine if they were actual homosexual relationships.&quot; He simply noted that they are described in ways that &quot;seem to indicate an unusual closeness and intimacy, words that are often associated with heterosexual couples recorded in the Bible.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching the video I e-mailed Jeff to congratulate him on how well he handled the session with Hudson and to ask about those 3 gay relationships.</p>
<p>He replied and told me that the relationships he had in mind are:</p>
<p>1. Ruth &amp; Naomi</p>
<p>2. Daniel &amp; Ashpenaz</p>
<p>3. David &amp; Jonathan</p>
<p>He also stated that from the Bible&#8217;s text it is &#8220;difficult if not impossible to truly determine if they were actual homosexual relationships.&#8221; He simply noted that they are described in ways that &#8220;seem to indicate an unusual closeness and intimacy, words that are often associated with heterosexual couples recorded in the Bible.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/24/1693/comment-page-1#comment-8198</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please explain what &quot;ramifications&quot; occur from a positive testimony?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please explain what &#8220;ramifications&#8221; occur from a positive testimony?</p>
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		<title>By: Peterson Toscano</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/24/1693/comment-page-1#comment-8180</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterson Toscano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, thanks for being sensitive to Jeff&#039;s need to retell his story. This is hard stuff and the ramifications can be serious. It&#039;s critical that folks being to have as much control over their stories as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, thanks for being sensitive to Jeff&#8217;s need to retell his story. This is hard stuff and the ramifications can be serious. It&#8217;s critical that folks being to have as much control over their stories as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: David Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/24/1693/comment-page-1#comment-8177</link>
		<dc:creator>David Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; &quot;They released a book, Ex-Gays? A Longitudinal Study of Religiously Mediated Change in Sexual Orientation.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t mean to advertise, but we had a long series of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2007/11/a-critique-of-jones-and-yarhouses-ex-gays-part-1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;critique and rebuttal&lt;/a&gt; between Dr. Patrick Chapman and the authors of the study. I&#039;ve not seen a more thorough treatment of it anywhere, so if you are interested in the study, check it out and follow the links to each part.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> &#8220;They released a book, Ex-Gays? A Longitudinal Study of Religiously Mediated Change in Sexual Orientation.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to advertise, but we had a long series of <a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2007/11/a-critique-of-jones-and-yarhouses-ex-gays-part-1/" rel="nofollow">critique and rebuttal</a> between Dr. Patrick Chapman and the authors of the study. I&#8217;ve not seen a more thorough treatment of it anywhere, so if you are interested in the study, check it out and follow the links to each part.</p>
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		<title>By: A Reparative Therapy Session With Counselor Bob Hudson &#124; Ex-Gay Watch</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Reparative Therapy Session With Counselor Bob Hudson &#124; Ex-Gay Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3-26-2008: The video is no longer available. According to Daniel, the subject of the video, Jeff, was concerned over &#8220;the ramifications of having certain [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3-26-2008: The video is no longer available. According to Daniel, the subject of the video, Jeff, was concerned over &#8220;the ramifications of having certain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Evening All…

As you may see if you try to play my video, it is no longer available. (as of 3/26/08) After seeing the ramifications of having parts of my story in the public domain, I have personally requested that it be take off-line and re-shot to allow a closer focus on what I would like to say. I have no animosity towards my family, or the counselor I saw for one session. I knew that nothing was wrong with me, and that I would not enter a reparative therapy program. I certainly did not mean that my counselor had ANY malicious intent or agenda in mind during our one-hour session. This story was to inspire those people who face the possibility of being forced into therapy at their resistance that there are other options, and to understand that acceptance of their sexuality is healthy and good.

This is MY story to tell, and as such I have every right to make sure it focuses on the right things and does not vilify those in the counseling or psychological profession. This does NOT help those who would face reparative therapy programs. We must endure to focus on them; to strengthen and educate those who need our help.

I would like to ask that everyone please understand why I asked for this action to take place. I do not wish my story become a lightning rod for action against my counselor who I do respect for his work with couples. I may not agree with his therapy in other areas, but his name did not need to be published and his website forced off-line.

When this video becomes active again, it will show a focused energy towards encouraging people who may be forced to go to reparative therapy programs against their will that they have it within themselves to reject such therapy if they so choose (as was my choice to reject starting reparative therapy). It will tell MY story the way I believe I should have been more careful to tell. It will speak about the incredible relationship that I now have with my family, and acceptance that my family has come to, and ultimately their support of me as a gay man.

If you would like to contact me, my email if jeff.t.williamson@gmail.com.

Thank you,

Jeff Williamson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Evening All…</p>
<p>As you may see if you try to play my video, it is no longer available. (as of 3/26/08) After seeing the ramifications of having parts of my story in the public domain, I have personally requested that it be take off-line and re-shot to allow a closer focus on what I would like to say. I have no animosity towards my family, or the counselor I saw for one session. I knew that nothing was wrong with me, and that I would not enter a reparative therapy program. I certainly did not mean that my counselor had ANY malicious intent or agenda in mind during our one-hour session. This story was to inspire those people who face the possibility of being forced into therapy at their resistance that there are other options, and to understand that acceptance of their sexuality is healthy and good.</p>
<p>This is MY story to tell, and as such I have every right to make sure it focuses on the right things and does not vilify those in the counseling or psychological profession. This does NOT help those who would face reparative therapy programs. We must endure to focus on them; to strengthen and educate those who need our help.</p>
<p>I would like to ask that everyone please understand why I asked for this action to take place. I do not wish my story become a lightning rod for action against my counselor who I do respect for his work with couples. I may not agree with his therapy in other areas, but his name did not need to be published and his website forced off-line.</p>
<p>When this video becomes active again, it will show a focused energy towards encouraging people who may be forced to go to reparative therapy programs against their will that they have it within themselves to reject such therapy if they so choose (as was my choice to reject starting reparative therapy). It will tell MY story the way I believe I should have been more careful to tell. It will speak about the incredible relationship that I now have with my family, and acceptance that my family has come to, and ultimately their support of me as a gay man.</p>
<p>If you would like to contact me, my email if <a href="mailto:jeff.t.williamson@gmail.com">jeff.t.williamson@gmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Jeff Williamson</p>
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