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	<title>Comments on: An Anthropologist Critiques Focus on the Family&#8217;s &#8220;Anthropological&#8221; Report on Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Glenn Stanton and Patrick Chapman debate anthropological arguments &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Stanton and Patrick Chapman debate anthropological arguments &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Patrick Chapman had a go at the Stanton article that started the conversation and then Stanton had his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Anthropological Authority and the Marriage Debate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Anthropological Authority and the Marriage Debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of marriage, is currently hosting a debate about the matter. Patrick Chapman has posted a lengthy response to a &#8216;white paper&#8217; by Focus on the Family&#8217;s Director of Family Formation Studies [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of marriage, is currently hosting a debate about the matter. Patrick Chapman has posted a lengthy response to a &#8216;white paper&#8217; by Focus on the Family&#8217;s Director of Family Formation Studies [...]</p>
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		<title>By: XGW Digest: March 25, 2008 &#124; Ex-Gay Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/25/1692/comment-page-1#comment-8120</link>
		<dc:creator>XGW Digest: March 25, 2008 &#124; Ex-Gay Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Box Turtle Bulletin continues its coverage of the Glenn Stanton controversy with an excellent article by Patrick Chapman. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johno</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/25/1692/comment-page-1#comment-8113</link>
		<dc:creator>Johno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am confused. According to this, Focus on the Family literature claims that gays cannot make long-term commitments. Yet they wish to effectively continue the ban on Gay Marriage, the main recorded form of making a long term-commitment in American society. How could statistics possibly show that gays can&#039;t commit to long-term relationships when they have never legally been allowed to do so in this country? In the past three hundred years there is little recorded evidence of long-term gay relationships in America because that information was never recorded, by law or by history, and only occasionally by the partners themselves when they had the courage to do so in a hostile environment. That being a given, how can there possibly be any real statistics about gay commitment to long-term relationships at all? And isn&#039;t it possible that this devaluing of gay relationships and gay people in general is one of the causes for supposedly short-lived relationships in Mr. Stanton&#039;s Christian-funded surveys?

In my family for example, there are four siblings. Three heterosexual, one homosexual. All three of the heterosexuals have been married and divorced, some of them many times. But my uncle Terry and his partner have been together longer than I have been alive. Nearly 40 years. They do not have AIDS, they have never been apart, and to hear them tell it, they have never even cheated on each other. In fact they are the only stable happy long-term relationship in my entire family. I would like to know from Mr. Stanton how I am to reconcile that reality with his group&#039;s statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confused. According to this, Focus on the Family literature claims that gays cannot make long-term commitments. Yet they wish to effectively continue the ban on Gay Marriage, the main recorded form of making a long term-commitment in American society. How could statistics possibly show that gays can&#8217;t commit to long-term relationships when they have never legally been allowed to do so in this country? In the past three hundred years there is little recorded evidence of long-term gay relationships in America because that information was never recorded, by law or by history, and only occasionally by the partners themselves when they had the courage to do so in a hostile environment. That being a given, how can there possibly be any real statistics about gay commitment to long-term relationships at all? And isn&#8217;t it possible that this devaluing of gay relationships and gay people in general is one of the causes for supposedly short-lived relationships in Mr. Stanton&#8217;s Christian-funded surveys?</p>
<p>In my family for example, there are four siblings. Three heterosexual, one homosexual. All three of the heterosexuals have been married and divorced, some of them many times. But my uncle Terry and his partner have been together longer than I have been alive. Nearly 40 years. They do not have AIDS, they have never been apart, and to hear them tell it, they have never even cheated on each other. In fact they are the only stable happy long-term relationship in my entire family. I would like to know from Mr. Stanton how I am to reconcile that reality with his group&#8217;s statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: RA</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/25/1692/comment-page-1#comment-8112</link>
		<dc:creator>RA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, Will Glenn Stanton re edit his report? Typical cover-up of truth and reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, Will Glenn Stanton re edit his report? Typical cover-up of truth and reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/25/1692/comment-page-1#comment-8109</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to thank Box Turtle Bulletin and Dr. Chapman for continuing to bring an honest discussion on gay families and their role in American society.  Hopefully Focus on the Family can take a breath, and perhaps start to re-evaluate their position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to thank Box Turtle Bulletin and Dr. Chapman for continuing to bring an honest discussion on gay families and their role in American society.  Hopefully Focus on the Family can take a breath, and perhaps start to re-evaluate their position.</p>
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		<title>By: BJohnM</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/03/25/1692/comment-page-1#comment-8100</link>
		<dc:creator>BJohnM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be standing on my head in the corner and holding my breath waiting for that apology.</description>
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