Comments on: “Refried Freud” — Psychoanalysis and Ex-Gay Therapy

By: Genesis 40 « reading the seisho

Genesis 40 « reading the seisho — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:48:10 +0000

[...] contain some sort of secret set of symbols that an expert can interpret. It’s one of the many reasons why I have very little respect for [...]

By: Jorge

Jorge — Mon, 04 May 2009 12:53:02 +0000

Nietzeche told about that and Freud repeated again and again be gays is to promote healthy on earth but that´s too much level, not for the gays but for the rest of the world the key word is the AGORA…

By: Jorge

Jorge — Mon, 04 May 2009 12:51:12 +0000

Well the greece people Platon Socrates, Alejandro Magno,Aristoteles were gays and they were very very happy that´s the problem ,in Greece everyone was gay and the population enjoyed a delightfull sane activity of life in democracy oh those days are gone… for bad because of Catholic church…

By: Joel

Joel — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:17:59 +0000

“a father may have become distant because he observed non-traditional sexuality.
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I will through my 2cents here to back ‘the other way around’ thinking. But before i do, i will take away the 2(or maybe even three)cents, cause it will support the distantfather/close ‘mother’ freudian theory.
-2cents) i was really attached to my aunt… 10 years ago(20 now), same time my dad started being an alcoholic.(I can retrospectively acknowledge my gayism around 12yrs, straightism around 10) ALso, I would ‘reattach’ myself to my aunt every time she came to visit(love/loved her), like 2weeks a year.
I dont think my dad even has a clue i dont lean straight much.
+2cents)I will never(with a sane mind) tell my dad, im pretty sure(99%) he wouldnt be so kisses/hugs/-iloveyous- if he knew i was. Bible-believing, traditional christian, with a ‘GROSS’ attitude towards gays. This attitude only encourages more acting from my part and certianly detriments my closeness to him(albeit im trying to get closer). Wouldnt be surprised if ppl that acknowledged their gayism sooner would start having a greater distance between them due to ‘the secret’ they need to keep from their dad(specially).
The popular ‘coming out to my mom first’ might be just the indication that my 2cents are not that far off the mark.

By: Yaakov Sullivan

Yaakov Sullivan — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:34:24 +0000

Growing acceptance of homosexuality means a decline in social stigma associated with same-sex relationships,bistiality, sadomasohism and a consequent shift in the politics of coming out. The more people come out,ingaging in open and productove homosexual activities, organize clubs for gay and lesbian professionals, lobby congress the more accepting people are around them, and the more accepting the public becomes, the more people come out. As a proud Catholic Jew who is married to Palestinian Arab i am so happy we live in such blessed times.

By: Rebecca R

Rebecca R — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:35:56 +0000

Timothy,
From the standpoint of a woman, I would think that a corollary to being attracted to someone like your good dad would be to be repulsed by someone like your bad dad. If the relationship was bad enough, you could even tune out to men altogether.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:29:49 +0000

Rebecca,

If I read the article correctly, imprinting would depend to some extent on the relationship you had with your father. In other words, if you think Dad’s just dandy, then you will probably look for a guy that looks like Dad.

While this subject may shed light on why I find guys with my mother’s coloring to be attractive, I doubt it says much about my sexual orientation.

By: Rebecca R

Rebecca R — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:07:58 +0000

OK. Well, I have pursued this sexual imprinting thing in humans and it freaks me out. I read the study below:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1691703

I had a love hate relationship with my dad. I hate to think I was imprinted by him. He was such a stinking narcissist. But he was tall and handsome. It’s too weird.

By: quo III

quo III — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:18:12 +0000

William,

As for my feelings about my parents, I hope you understand if I have no desire to discuss this. I’ve mentioned a few facts about my life because they help to illustrate some of my points, but I don’t want to go into unnecessary detail. How I feel about my parents now is irrelevant.

By: quo III

quo III — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:08:49 +0000

William,

Bell and his co-writers were, as I said, inconsistent and possibly confused. Whether the behavior of parents has any influence on their children’s sexual orientation was an issue they appeared to take somewhat different stances on in different parts of their book.

Going from memory, they wrote at one point that the close mother/distant father thing was ‘not particularly important’, which seems to imply that it is indeed a factor in the development of homosexuality, even if only a minor one. Near the end of the book, however, they suugested strongly that there was no influence of parents on the sexual orientation of their children whatever. They seemed to slide from implicitly granting that the classic Freudian scenario had some kind of limited effect to saying that it had no effect at all.

This doesn’t in any way follow, however. One cannot conclude that simply because something might be only a relatively minor factor in the development of homosexuality, that it actually has no effect of any kind.