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	<title>Comments on: Does Exodus Global Alliance Support Criminalization of Homosexuality?</title>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So why doesn’t Exodus call for the death penalty for all “practising” homosexuals? Is it that Exodus would, in fact, support such a cruel and barbaric measure but is scared to say so? I’m only asking.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A valid question. No doubt some, if not most of them would oppose our executions, but given that they don’t even have the spines to simply tell us that our love is FAKE, surely -- if it ever played out -- they would wilt in the light of that anti-gay party line as well.

Those in charge would easily condemn anyone who was against the death penalty for gays as being “pro-gay,” if not “anti-Christian” altogether. Just as they do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So why doesn’t Exodus call for the death penalty for all “practising” homosexuals? Is it that Exodus would, in fact, support such a cruel and barbaric measure but is scared to say so? I’m only asking.</p></blockquote>
<p>A valid question. No doubt some, if not most of them would oppose our executions, but given that they don’t even have the spines to simply tell us that our love is FAKE, surely &#8212; if it ever played out &#8212; they would wilt in the light of that anti-gay party line as well.</p>
<p>Those in charge would easily condemn anyone who was against the death penalty for gays as being “pro-gay,” if not “anti-Christian” altogether. Just as they do now.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Exodus were consistent – which it isn’t – then it ought to do more than support the criminalization of homosexuality: it should demand the death penalty.

Exodus’s “Doctrinal Statement” declares:

“We believe the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament are the inspired Word Of [sic] God, the final authority for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction for right living.”

The Old Testament not only says: “You must not lie with a man as with a woman” (Lev. 18:22); it also says: “The man who lies with a man in the same way as with a woman: they have done a hateful thing together; they must die, their blood shall be upon their own heads.” (Lev. 20:13) [Jerusalem Bible translation]

So why doesn’t Exodus call for the death penalty for all “practising” homosexuals? Is it that Exodus would, in fact, support such a cruel and barbaric measure but is scared to say so? I&#039;m only asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Exodus were consistent – which it isn’t – then it ought to do more than support the criminalization of homosexuality: it should demand the death penalty.</p>
<p>Exodus’s “Doctrinal Statement” declares:</p>
<p>“We believe the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament are the inspired Word Of [sic] God, the final authority for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction for right living.”</p>
<p>The Old Testament not only says: “You must not lie with a man as with a woman” (Lev. 18:22); it also says: “The man who lies with a man in the same way as with a woman: they have done a hateful thing together; they must die, their blood shall be upon their own heads.” (Lev. 20:13) [Jerusalem Bible translation]</p>
<p>So why doesn’t Exodus call for the death penalty for all “practising” homosexuals? Is it that Exodus would, in fact, support such a cruel and barbaric measure but is scared to say so? I&#8217;m only asking.</p>
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		<title>By: queerunity</title>
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		<dc:creator>queerunity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these people are the most vicious kind, even if they were so called &quot;ex-gay&quot; they would know what it was like to have been gay and feel that criminalization of homosexuality was wrong.  these people are crazy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these people are the most vicious kind, even if they were so called &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; they would know what it was like to have been gay and feel that criminalization of homosexuality was wrong.  these people are crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... This is another part of the puzzle, that was there but wasnt explicitly there. This is VERY interesting. There might be alot of cloth here to weave with.

In other words. If you cant change then remain celibate and use your hand or be an ex-gay. If you dont want to adhere to heterosexual supremacy, or want to establish a gay relationship(being gay and all), or simply dont want to be an ex-gay, then... too bad, criminalize these pervs. Right?  

Imo, ex-gays need to keep ppl under the illusion that gays are 99% non-comitted, and 100% confused or/and 100% broken individuals. So as to legalize the criminilization of gays without sounding theocratical.

Help me out on understanding the ex-gay, legal, non-theocratical position. Since gays CHOOSE to act upon the confusion and brokenness, as if it was right, ultimiately the consequences will speak for themselves and prove it was wrong to begin with. Consequences such as non-commiting, 99%sexually impulsed(like a peadophile) factors. Thus, the analogy of homosexuality=peadophilia=bestiality=crapophilia is reasonably sound.  But homosexuality can even be worse than some of these paraphilias.  It carries countless STD&#039;s too. WHo in the right mind would remotely suggest that homosexuality is nothing but something to criminilize?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; This is another part of the puzzle, that was there but wasnt explicitly there. This is VERY interesting. There might be alot of cloth here to weave with.</p>
<p>In other words. If you cant change then remain celibate and use your hand or be an ex-gay. If you dont want to adhere to heterosexual supremacy, or want to establish a gay relationship(being gay and all), or simply dont want to be an ex-gay, then&#8230; too bad, criminalize these pervs. Right?  </p>
<p>Imo, ex-gays need to keep ppl under the illusion that gays are 99% non-comitted, and 100% confused or/and 100% broken individuals. So as to legalize the criminilization of gays without sounding theocratical.</p>
<p>Help me out on understanding the ex-gay, legal, non-theocratical position. Since gays CHOOSE to act upon the confusion and brokenness, as if it was right, ultimiately the consequences will speak for themselves and prove it was wrong to begin with. Consequences such as non-commiting, 99%sexually impulsed(like a peadophile) factors. Thus, the analogy of homosexuality=peadophilia=bestiality=crapophilia is reasonably sound.  But homosexuality can even be worse than some of these paraphilias.  It carries countless STD&#8217;s too. WHo in the right mind would remotely suggest that homosexuality is nothing but something to criminilize?</p>
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