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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyApril 10th, 2008
In an article by contributor Thomas Phinemann, the Jamaica Gleaner takes on the issue of homosexuality. Initially it appears as though it is a call for reason, but it quickly devolves into blaming gay Jamaicans for the violence enacted against them:
How can we coexist in peace? We need to start talking to each other. Tolerating homosexuals does not mean condoning or accepting homosexuality. It means that heterosexuals need to accept that there are homosexuals in this world and as human beings they have a right to be in the universe. Homosexuals need to understand that heterosexuals find the lifestyle of homosexuals objectionable, and homosexuals should not flaunt their lifestyle in public and provoke heterosexuals.
After talking about “battle lines” and “no compromise, no middle ground” for those who believe the Bible, Phinemann expresses his views which are, sadly, the predominant views on the island:
In my view, changing the law to accommodate ‘buggery’ is the precursor to changing the law to accommodate bestiality and incest. Men, we agree to disagree on the issue of homosexuality. Let us be respectful of each other as we deal with this issue.
Phinemann and the Gleaner no doubt pride themselves that they are calling for peace. He does end his article with “Let there be no hunting and no flaunting.”
But their peace speaks only to their own desires – the justification of violence and the villification of those they dislike. Under the “peace” of the Gleaner and Phinemann, gay men and women – or those who “flaunt” their existence – continue to be beaten and murdered. And what kind of “dealing” can there be for those who must remain invisible or suffer the consequence of “provoking” heterosexuals?
But now the Gleaner and others in positions of influence can wash their hands and claim that they tried.
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Jason D
April 11th, 2008
so instead of DADTDP, Jamaica will have “Don’t Hunt, Don’t Flaunt”
Fiona
April 11th, 2008
There is no way I will ever step foot on Jamaican soil, and I will encourage all my friends and family to stay away as well. If they wish to be a murderous and uncivilized island, they can suffer the consequences by losing their jobs that are dependent on us vacationers.
ShannonB
April 11th, 2008
What exactly IS “flaunting?” Isn’t what they’re saying is so long as you are a straight-acting gay, we won’t bother you, but if you are in the least gender variant, we will chase you down and kill you. It is the same mantra we get here on the mainland (e.g. ENDA). Nobody cares who you sleep with, heck, no one can even tell who you are sleeping with unless you’re doing it in public. What they CAN see and object to is any kind of gender variance. What they hate is femmy gay men and transgender women, and until people start talking about what is the real issue nothing will get solved.
Joel
April 11th, 2008
The jamaican guy FINALLy put some sense to the difference between their defintion of tolerance and the dictionaries understanding of it. They are no better/worse than christians. TOLERATE, imo, to them means that if u kiss your partner in public, or hold hands or go cuchy cuchy strolling down the park,then… you are flaunting it. Then, since their is no law to put these objectionable actions in their place, a society that overall condemns it has somewhat of a right to punish the transgressors. Like social punishment, not for not molding to be straight but for flaunting such indecency. Bashing them probably gets the point across, since… their is no other way. But… one quick peek at the definition of tolerance, “to be willing to allow something to happen or exist” is sufferin casualties with this redifining of tolerance.
The provoking part does not rhyme with THE definition of tolerance, at all. Thats the whole point of tolerance. TO TOLERATE it even when you find it objectionable.
The way their apparantly viewing tolerance is kind of like the dont ask, dont tell policy. AS long as we do not see you, or hear you talking about men and your gayness or doing gay stuff(in the most amigous term of the word), then your all good. Otherwise i can no longer tolerate you, but i beg to ask what exactly are they tolerating?
What is the point of using the word tolerance, if your not going to abide by its definition. Maybe he had a bit too much crack or haleluyas before writing this. Or maybe its jsut use and custom to toss aroudn the word tolerance like that.
Hey
September 7th, 2009
Its actually pretty funny. I hope you gays go there and get chopped into bits by my people. This stupid little website is not going to stop people from going to Jamaica.
Timothy Kincaid
September 8th, 2009
Hey,
Perhaps we won’t stop all people from going to that violent island, but we will continue to expose a culture that has resulted in the type of vile hatred that you have shown us.
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