April 11th, 2008
So this is what happens when heterosexuals run amok and take over society — sex with underage girls in a “holy” temple:
The rules of the cult clearly continue to shock investigators, despite the legalese in the court documents describing their discoveries, including emphasis on sex with their underage wives.
The temple “contains an area where there is a bed where males over the age of 17 engage in sexual activity with female children under the age of 17,” according to a court affidavit, citing the confidential informant.
The temple marriage bed’s linens were mussed and had hair from a female, said the affidavit signed by Texas Ranger Leslie Brooks Long and unsealed Wednesday.
Obviously this is something that all decent human beings can quickly and strongly condemn. But can you imagine the outcry and furor that would come if this had been some sort of gay cult? Concerned Women, Porno Pete, the Family “Research” Council and CitizenLink would be all over this latest perversity.
But I looked over their web sites, and I was surprised to see not a single peep about the FLDS raids in Texas. I guess moral outrage is only useful when deployed against gay people. When it’s straight people doing it, there’s nothing but silence.
Which is odd, because isn’t same-sex marriage supposed to be the first step on a slippery slope to polygamy? Strange, because for some reason, the vast majority of people who want polygamy are not only straight, but are very hostile to gay people. And they molest young girls in their temples.
That’s quite a lovely agenda they got there. You can read more about the Heterosexual Agenda here.
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Willie Hewes
April 11th, 2008
*cough*
Could we please refrain from casually tarring all polygamists with the same brush? There is in fact a gay-friendly, non-molesting, non-religious subculture of polygamists, even if they prefer to call themselves polyamorous.
That said, your point about the evil heterosexual agenda stands; yes, they would be all over this, and no, sexual immorality doesn’t count if it’s heterosexuals doing it. What, didn’t you read the memo?
cowboy
April 11th, 2008
I have to echo much of what W. Hewes said too. In defense of the run-of-the-mill Mormons…their Temples are not like those of the FLDS. The only strange or icky ritual in the Mormon temples involves holy oil anointing. Ask a Mormon temple-recommend holder about it and see if they don’t blush.
So, when you pass by a standard Mormon Temple® don’t think there is any kinky business with sex and underage girls going on inside. Please. If it were happening the lid on this would have been exposed years ago!
Jason D
April 11th, 2008
“Could we please refrain from casually tarring all polygamists with the same brush? There is in fact a gay-friendly, non-molesting, non-religious subculture of polygamists, even if they prefer to call themselves polyamorous.”
Willie, I think Jim was painting with the broad brush of sarcasm and satire.
Erica B.
April 11th, 2008
Oh, how very considerate of you. I’m sure the victims of repeated abuse are happy to know their torture was extended for four years because of this.
Willie Hewes
April 11th, 2008
Jason D: RLY? Dang, I totally didn’t get that. Just to say: I have no grievance, just wanted to make the point.
And I’m really curious about the holy oil anointing now.
Loki
April 11th, 2008
OK, having been to the LDS temple many times, I can say it was odd, but not in any way inappropriate or icky. However, it is not a regular part of temple attendance, just a ordinance performed once in your life per individual.
cowboy
April 11th, 2008
I was trying to avoid a detailed description of the holy oil anointing ritual because some of the things inside a standard Mormon Temple are sacred and church leaders express great disdain on people who tell their secrets. I’m sure there are places on the www where you can get the details. But for simplicity sake: Every worthy Mormon is encouraged to go through the Temple ceremony for themselves and part of the series of rituals include a part where you stand with only a loosely-fitted robe and an ordained person touches parts of your body with sacred oil.
I’m not sure if there is a related ritual in the Masonic Temple but it sure has freaked a couple of my Mormon friends that went through the Temple for their first time.
Personally, I would have blown the Angel Moroni’s horn if that happened to me. (It’s the golden statue on the top spire of nearly all Mormon Temples®)
cowboy
April 11th, 2008
Okay…Loki, correct me if I’m wrong. There are substitute people who do temple ordinance work (by proxy for those who are dead) and it involves this oil anointing ritual? It is part of the rituals when the Temple is in session or on a daily basis? Oil anointments by proxy are a quite regular occurrence isn’t it?
But, I will concede: It’s not as odd as having a bed inside a temple.
I don’t want to dilute the significance of the whole Temple experience. To some people there is a tranquility and reverence in the Mormon Temples that is not found in other places of worship. The “sealing†ordinance is probably one of the most endearing rituals in the Temple. So, I will say the whole Families-Are-Forever© aspect is a good thing.
Loki
April 13th, 2008
Cowboy, you are not wrong, I do know that it is done daily by proxy, but you only go through it once for yourself, after that, it is done on a voluntary basis.
Buck
April 26th, 2008
Cowboy, How could any non-LDS member know what goes on in those temples. Only LDS members are allowed inside. The rest of us have to wait for a 911 call before we have any idea what really occurs there.
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