Comments on: Kentucky Votes for LIMITED Information on Holocaust

By: Ephilei

Ephilei — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:02:37 +0000

Also left out of even the original info was that trans people were Holocaust victums as well. We’re kind of mistakenly put under the “gay” heading except nobody says we’re being lumped there. Only the openness of the Internet was willing to tell me that.

By: Mombian » Blog Archive » Weekly Political Roundup

Mombian » Blog Archive » Weekly Political Roundup — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:30:58 +0000

[...] “Revisionist History” award of the week goes to the Kentucky Senate. It voted to direct the Department of Education to make curriculum materials about the [...]

By: Emily K

Emily K — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:03:03 +0000

Joel, that’s a good parallel you’re offering. However, most fundie evangelical Christians will tell you how much they “love” the Jewish people and want them to be saved by becoming Jews for Jesus, Messianic Jews, or “fulfilled Jews” – that is, give up all biblical Jewish doctrine that opposes Jesus being called Messiah and practice Christianity while “looking Jewish.” To them, being Jewish is about wearing skullcaps and eating challah bread, not believing in one God (instead of a triune one) or believing that all people have the chance to be in heaven with the Lord at death (not just the ones that practice our religion).

By: Joel

Joel — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:29:46 +0000

Ty regan, btw… i believe this red flag is raised maybe because they dont want to put gays and jews the same level…Meaning, that gay relationships are just wrong and jews are just practicing freedom of religion. Plus… it would contribute to a gay accepting society.

By: Regan DuCasse

Regan DuCasse — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:18:57 +0000

Hi Joel,
It’s the very people who want to place the blame for it on homosexuals and homosexuality, with the theory that acceptance of homosexuality destroyed whole civilizations.
Another tactic is to say it wasn’t as bad as reported and that the millions of Jews murdered or enslaved is an inflated number. Similar to the criticism that gays and lesbians number at about ten percent, more like less than three percent or some other amorphous miniscule number.

It’s distorting the prevailing information and/or reducing it (so thus it’s importance and impact). And that’s what the KY general assembly is doing, distorting the information as initial article says.
To lessen the importance and tragedy of gays and lesbians in the Holocaust and to alter the expansion and meaning of the Final Solution. Only now, the assembly is saying…”it’s for the children.”.

By: Joel

Joel — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:15:32 +0000

Could someone explain what Holocaust Revisionist means? I have an idea, of course, but just to be sure.

By: Regan DuCasse

Regan DuCasse — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:42:30 +0000

To answer you Chad…

I’m still a member and volunteer with the MOT, Simon Weisenthal Center…

And THEY will care about this situation. They have quite a lot of influence, and hopefully can get the assembly to reconsider.
It’s no surprise that Scott Lively, Paul Cameron and other Holocaust distorters and supporters are behind such legislation.

Age appropriate Holocaust information? Let’s just say there are classes of children that come to the Museum of Tolerance every day. It’s a powerful place that leaves strong minded men in tears, uplifted and not able to forget.
And that’s the whole point. To NEVER forget and leave a strong enough impression, even on children, so that they understand the danger and power of the Nazi process and will recognize the workings of people like Scott Lively.
If children can be exposed to fire and brimstone preachers…and graphic language in churches, there is no reason to restrain information regarding the far more recent and inarguable Holocaust from young folks.

Seriously, after a fashion, the young folks appreciate their intelligence and feelings about such a huge thing being respected and they don’t want to be a part of history that could do what the Nazis did.
Children cannot be lied to. They will eventually confront and challenge the adults on it. If anything, children hate being treated like babies or as if they are stupid.
They WILL be able to handle Holocaust history better than Paul Cameron and Scott Lively obviously can.

By: Regan DuCasse

Regan DuCasse — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:30:50 +0000

When I volunteered at the Museum of Tolerance, gays and other groups were not left out of the information. However, it was a little later that the Museum started to have serious dialogue and museum exhibits specifically on gays and lesbians.
The Museum brought in PFLAG, the ONE institute’s archivists and GLAAD to form a coalition with the ADL to make sure that gays and lesbians were not only part of the exhibits, but that opportunities and encouragement of interaction and acceptance were there also.

And as the rabbinical college focused on the acceptance of gay and lesbian rabbis, cantors and marriage for same sex couples, the Museum posted the progress and results of this information for the public.

I’m going to inform the Museum of this development in KY. This is disgusting and disturbing in the motive and the overall effect.

When historical record loses faces, names, context and content regarding such an important fact on gays and lesbians, it is an act worthy of what, as has been metioned, what the Nazis themselves did.

By: Emily K

Emily K — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:09:58 +0000

Jew speaking. I knew about ALL the “undesirables” – and yes, in synagogue, we were taught about all of them, by name. Of course it wasn’t just about Jews. Of course we Jews care about teaching about the FULL HORRIFIC EFFECT of the Holocaust. We remember that Genocide is not reserved for the Jews. That’s why so many of us are especially concerned about Darfur.

By: Joel

Joel — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:03:36 +0000

Well… this limited education already seemed to pass here heh. I KNEW about the holocaust and the jews and the gypsies… but at no point did they mention homosexuals. I came to figure that out on the internet, and if im not mistaken it might’ve been at box turtle =o.

This is sad and in no way does it improve education. Rather… it fragments it. I wonder though… how many more things do they have to hide in order to not ‘endanger’ anything. Endanger what!? The educations system’s integrity or credence? Wouldn’t that be a good thing?