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	<title>Comments on: Is Maggie Gallagher a Marriage Protector or Obsessively Anti-Gay?</title>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/02/1931/comment-page-1#comment-10235</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“Judges and politicians like that imply that the 60 percent of black Americans and 60 percent of white Americans in a November Pew poll who say they oppose gay marriage must be motivated by ‘animus.’ Translation? You’re a bigot.” &quot;

If it isn&#039;t animus, its a belief.. Both of which, imo, are not enough to base anything out of.   It certainly isnt something inherently natural... but rather socially conditioned where ppl dont necesarily chose to have that animus.  Anyways, the animus claim  would be backed up by other nations where this animus has really declined, maybe like Canada or some other places in the world, no? Anyone have a statistic to back what im saying heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Judges and politicians like that imply that the 60 percent of black Americans and 60 percent of white Americans in a November Pew poll who say they oppose gay marriage must be motivated by ‘animus.’ Translation? You’re a bigot.” &#8221;</p>
<p>If it isn&#8217;t animus, its a belief.. Both of which, imo, are not enough to base anything out of.   It certainly isnt something inherently natural&#8230; but rather socially conditioned where ppl dont necesarily chose to have that animus.  Anyways, the animus claim  would be backed up by other nations where this animus has really declined, maybe like Canada or some other places in the world, no? Anyone have a statistic to back what im saying heh.</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
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		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing about ms. gallagher. The following one-note straw man argument seems to pop up in a lot of her writings about marriage equality:

&quot;Judges and politicians like that imply that the 60 percent of black Americans and 60 percent of white Americans in a November Pew poll who say they oppose gay marriage must be motivated by &#039;animus.&#039; Translation? You&#039;re a bigot.&quot; 

Also, when asked about the money ($41,500) she received from the Bush Administration, she said she simply forgot to mention it, even though at the time, she testified in front of Congress regarding her position.

Which is the most ridiculous explanation I have ever heard. Hell, I remember receiving an 11 cent check from the phone company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing about ms. gallagher. The following one-note straw man argument seems to pop up in a lot of her writings about marriage equality:</p>
<p>&#8220;Judges and politicians like that imply that the 60 percent of black Americans and 60 percent of white Americans in a November Pew poll who say they oppose gay marriage must be motivated by &#8216;animus.&#8217; Translation? You&#8217;re a bigot.&#8221; </p>
<p>Also, when asked about the money ($41,500) she received from the Bush Administration, she said she simply forgot to mention it, even though at the time, she testified in front of Congress regarding her position.</p>
<p>Which is the most ridiculous explanation I have ever heard. Hell, I remember receiving an 11 cent check from the phone company.</p>
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		<title>By: L. Junius Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Junius Brutus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 11:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the same thing about her, especially her comment that polygamy is superior to gay marriage. But then I read this opinion piece:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MaggieGallagher/2006/10/24/state_marriage_amendment_and_gay_rights_new_dilemmas&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.townhall.com/c...new_dilemmas
&lt;/a&gt;
She sounds mildly sympathetic toward civil union measures. Of course, none of those who truly hate us do that.

And she wrote an opinion piece saying that she wanted to vote for Giuliani (also on Town Hall), but backed off after learning of his support for public funding for abortions. Since Giuliani opposes the amendment, I don&#039;t think this lady is quite as bad as some of the others, but then again, with the anti-gay folks you can never be certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the same thing about her, especially her comment that polygamy is superior to gay marriage. But then I read this opinion piece:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MaggieGallagher/2006/10/24/state_marriage_amendment_and_gay_rights_new_dilemmas" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.townhall.com/c...new_dilemmas" rel="nofollow">http://www.townhall.com/c&#8230;new_dilemmas</a></p>
<p>She sounds mildly sympathetic toward civil union measures. Of course, none of those who truly hate us do that.</p>
<p>And she wrote an opinion piece saying that she wanted to vote for Giuliani (also on Town Hall), but backed off after learning of his support for public funding for abortions. Since Giuliani opposes the amendment, I don&#8217;t think this lady is quite as bad as some of the others, but then again, with the anti-gay folks you can never be certain.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 03:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for that lovely voice of support, berevi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for that lovely voice of support, berevi</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/02/1931/comment-page-1#comment-10162</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, So They wrote about: 
&quot;A New Jersey couple sought dissolution of their domestic partnership on grounds of irreconcilable difference.&quot;

That was good enough to put into a newsletter, so. Are they going to start writing about every other divorce, _EVER_?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, So They wrote about:<br />
&#8220;A New Jersey couple sought dissolution of their domestic partnership on grounds of irreconcilable difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was good enough to put into a newsletter, so. Are they going to start writing about every other divorce, _EVER_?</p>
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		<title>By: queerunity</title>
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		<dc:creator>queerunity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for &quot;outing&quot; this womans hypocrisy and true &quot;agenda&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for &#8220;outing&#8221; this womans hypocrisy and true &#8220;agenda&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Berevi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berevi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that around us, from children to the old, we are surrounded by gays.  These our friends, our loved ones, our children.  We know many truly good people who just want to be loved, and free to love.  How can we hate our friends, loved ones, our children?  It is the truth of human existence that we fear what we don&#039;t understand.  They are gay.  It is O.K.  Why would they CHOOSE something they fear will make those THEY love, hate or abandon them?  Just because some religious rambling says so?    We must follow our hearts, our souls.  Love our people.  ALL our people.  It is so very important we do so.  Or we will never be one as a people.  Stop your child fearing you.  Let them be the only thing they feel they can.  Show them how to love themselves and to love in life honorably, with caring, and instill in them the future.  This world is so many, with many voices screaming to be heard, when all these people want is love.  Let them love, give them that right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that around us, from children to the old, we are surrounded by gays.  These our friends, our loved ones, our children.  We know many truly good people who just want to be loved, and free to love.  How can we hate our friends, loved ones, our children?  It is the truth of human existence that we fear what we don&#8217;t understand.  They are gay.  It is O.K.  Why would they CHOOSE something they fear will make those THEY love, hate or abandon them?  Just because some religious rambling says so?    We must follow our hearts, our souls.  Love our people.  ALL our people.  It is so very important we do so.  Or we will never be one as a people.  Stop your child fearing you.  Let them be the only thing they feel they can.  Show them how to love themselves and to love in life honorably, with caring, and instill in them the future.  This world is so many, with many voices screaming to be heard, when all these people want is love.  Let them love, give them that right.</p>
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