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	<title>Comments on: When I Was An Ex-Gay I Voted To Ban Gay Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Jarod</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/15/2023/comment-page-1#comment-10998</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though there are very few things from your &quot;ex-gay&quot; experiences that you are truly ashamed of (I sincerely hope that means that you didn&#039;t encourage others to go down that road) I would assume that there are at least a few things that you regret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though there are very few things from your &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; experiences that you are truly ashamed of (I sincerely hope that means that you didn&#8217;t encourage others to go down that road) I would assume that there are at least a few things that you regret.</p>
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		<title>By: Rptrcub</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/15/2023/comment-page-1#comment-10976</link>
		<dc:creator>Rptrcub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a strong person to admit they were wrong, Daniel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a strong person to admit they were wrong, Daniel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/15/2023/comment-page-1#comment-10911</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s amazing to me how often the anti-gay side seems to not understand the government of their own country.

Supreme Courts NEVER interpret the law!  Lower courts decide if a law has been violated or not, the Supremes decide if the law violates the constitution, and if it&#039;s justifiable or not.  That&#039;s why they&#039;re not elected, so that they care about the constitution, not &quot;the will of the people&quot;.

Our forefathers recognized that democracy, by itself, is little more than mob rule.  They recognized that majority can be swayed, and that just because a bunch of people agree on something, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s right or wrong.  So they came up with The Constitution, a set of rules and guidelines, basics.  Do whatever you want, as long as your law doesn&#039;t violate the consitution.  Some of our laws don&#039;t direcly violate freedoms, just define the parameters, the boundaries of that freedom -- you can say whatever you want, but you can&#039;t incite a riot, and you can&#039;t openly threaten the life of the president.  These are reasonable limits.

I should probably stop my lecture now, but it&#039;s like they get hot and bothered, but don&#039;t have any grasp of way this country works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s amazing to me how often the anti-gay side seems to not understand the government of their own country.</p>
<p>Supreme Courts NEVER interpret the law!  Lower courts decide if a law has been violated or not, the Supremes decide if the law violates the constitution, and if it&#8217;s justifiable or not.  That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re not elected, so that they care about the constitution, not &#8220;the will of the people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Our forefathers recognized that democracy, by itself, is little more than mob rule.  They recognized that majority can be swayed, and that just because a bunch of people agree on something, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s right or wrong.  So they came up with The Constitution, a set of rules and guidelines, basics.  Do whatever you want, as long as your law doesn&#8217;t violate the consitution.  Some of our laws don&#8217;t direcly violate freedoms, just define the parameters, the boundaries of that freedom &#8212; you can say whatever you want, but you can&#8217;t incite a riot, and you can&#8217;t openly threaten the life of the president.  These are reasonable limits.</p>
<p>I should probably stop my lecture now, but it&#8217;s like they get hot and bothered, but don&#8217;t have any grasp of way this country works!</p>
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		<title>By: Cal90049</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/15/2023/comment-page-1#comment-10905</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal90049</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a field coordinator in the LA office for the No on Knight (Prop. 22) in 2000. I cannot tell you the disillusionment and shock that many of my coworkers and friends had about California when 22 passed. Most of us were transplants and considered California a mythical place. It was a rude awakening.

I left 4 years ago for a job and still not a day goes by I don&#039;t miss &quot;home&quot;. 

I miss it even more today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a field coordinator in the LA office for the No on Knight (Prop. 22) in 2000. I cannot tell you the disillusionment and shock that many of my coworkers and friends had about California when 22 passed. Most of us were transplants and considered California a mythical place. It was a rude awakening.</p>
<p>I left 4 years ago for a job and still not a day goes by I don&#8217;t miss &#8220;home&#8221;. </p>
<p>I miss it even more today.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooner</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/15/2023/comment-page-1#comment-10893</link>
		<dc:creator>Cooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll forgive you this time, Daniel. :) Seriously, a very heartfelt writing and very encouraging to see how hearts and minds change over time.

My partner and I had to leave California a few months ago for job/economic reasons. I hope we can move back someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll forgive you this time, Daniel. :) Seriously, a very heartfelt writing and very encouraging to see how hearts and minds change over time.</p>
<p>My partner and I had to leave California a few months ago for job/economic reasons. I hope we can move back someday.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarred</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/15/2023/comment-page-1#comment-10889</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In reaction to today’s decision the religious-right will no doubt claim this decision is counter to the will of the people.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree that this is what they will likely done (and it appears that Matt Barber already has).  But I&#039;ve always found it strange that people who normally preach that (1) people&#039;s &quot;willfulness&quot; is what usually get them in trouble and (2) the majority are often in the wrong (&quot;wide is the gate and broad is the path that leads to destruction&quot;?) would suddenly be advocating for &quot;the will of the people.&quot;  Such advocacy just isn&#039;t consistent with the rest of their theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In reaction to today’s decision the religious-right will no doubt claim this decision is counter to the will of the people.</i></p>
<p>I agree that this is what they will likely done (and it appears that Matt Barber already has).  But I&#8217;ve always found it strange that people who normally preach that (1) people&#8217;s &#8220;willfulness&#8221; is what usually get them in trouble and (2) the majority are often in the wrong (&#8221;wide is the gate and broad is the path that leads to destruction&#8221;?) would suddenly be advocating for &#8220;the will of the people.&#8221;  Such advocacy just isn&#8217;t consistent with the rest of their theology.</p>
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		<title>By: GDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go, California!

Thanks for keeping us up to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go, California!</p>
<p>Thanks for keeping us up to date.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had already planned to return permenantly to California later this year - even before this ruling came down.  I moved away in 1999 for a job, and while I recognize the importance of having made that move, I am ready to go back.  There&#039;s no place like the Golden State.  California or bust!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had already planned to return permenantly to California later this year &#8211; even before this ruling came down.  I moved away in 1999 for a job, and while I recognize the importance of having made that move, I am ready to go back.  There&#8217;s no place like the Golden State.  California or bust!</p>
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