Comments on: Alan Chambers: Death or Change http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sun, 19 May 2013 14:07:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: XGW Digest: May 29, 2008 | Ex-Gay Watch http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097/comment-page-1#comment-11482 XGW Digest: May 29, 2008 | Ex-Gay Watch Fri, 30 May 2008 02:21:42 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097#comment-11482 [...] into ex-gay therapy to “change.” Alan Chambers echoes this sentiment by implying that death or change are the only two options available for [...] [...] into ex-gay therapy to “change.” Alan Chambers echoes this sentiment by implying that death or change are the only two options available for [...]

]]> By: Ephilei http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097/comment-page-1#comment-11413 Ephilei Wed, 28 May 2008 16:13:49 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097#comment-11413 Maybe I'm confusing ex-gay personalities, but wasn't Chambers by his own confession very pro-gay? If he was pro-gay, why would commit suicide over his sexuality? Or maybe his supposed pro-gayness was an exaggeration to make his "testimony" more potent. "See, even gay activists can change!" Sounds like Chambers is, again, playing both sides when the situation suits his cause. Maybe I’m confusing ex-gay personalities, but wasn’t Chambers by his own confession very pro-gay? If he was pro-gay, why would commit suicide over his sexuality? Or maybe his supposed pro-gayness was an exaggeration to make his “testimony” more potent. “See, even gay activists can change!” Sounds like Chambers is, again, playing both sides when the situation suits his cause.

]]> By: Emproph http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097/comment-page-1#comment-11396 Emproph Wed, 28 May 2008 08:57:18 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097#comment-11396 P.S. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia: Dog-whistle politics</a> As I mentioned in the comments @ PHB: <blockquote>Not that Exodus/Focus isn't renowned for it's code-speak / dog whistle politicking, but this is one of, if not <i><b>the</i></b> most egregious offenses of it that I can conceive of.</blockquote> P.S. Wikipedia: Dog-whistle politics

As I mentioned in the comments @ PHB:

Not that Exodus/Focus isn’t renowned for it’s code-speak / dog whistle politicking, but this is one of, if not the most egregious offenses of it that I can conceive of.

]]> By: Emproph http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097/comment-page-1#comment-11395 Emproph Wed, 28 May 2008 08:08:06 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097#comment-11395 While we’re keeping track, let’s not forget FOF’s "ex-gay" Melissa Fryrear’s same assertions from nearly 2 years ago: BTB: <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2006/06/20/19" rel="nofollow">The False Witness of Focus on the Family</a> June 20th, 2006 The first two links on that page no longer work, and I can’t seem to find them on <a href="http://www.archive.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">WayBackMachine</a>, but the <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060711202120/http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/060619/x061932.html" rel="nofollow">"Canadian press"</a> link did come up. Besen’s <a href="http://www.respectmyresearch.org/Elizabeth_Saewyc.html" rel="nofollow">Respect My Research.org</a> also still documents it: <blockquote>In June 2006, Focus on the Family grossly distorted a study by this Canadian researcher that showed teenage lesbians had a higher rate of suicide attempts. Unconscionably, Melissa Fryrear, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family, <b>blamed gay activists for causing the deaths</b>, saying that teaching self-acceptance caused the young women to be suicidal.</blockquote> The term “dog whistle politics” has been going around of late. Wayne has it right, this isn’t just about a ‘false choice,’ as you put it Jim, they’re attempting to blame the deaths of these kids on us -- outright -- without actually saying so. While we’re keeping track, let’s not forget FOF’s “ex-gay” Melissa Fryrear’s same assertions from nearly 2 years ago:

BTB: The False Witness of Focus on the Family
June 20th, 2006

The first two links on that page no longer work, and I can’t seem to find them on WayBackMachine, but the “Canadian press” link did come up.

Besen’s Respect My Research.org also still documents it:

In June 2006, Focus on the Family grossly distorted a study by this Canadian researcher that showed teenage lesbians had a higher rate of suicide attempts. Unconscionably, Melissa Fryrear, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family, blamed gay activists for causing the deaths, saying that teaching self-acceptance caused the young women to be suicidal.

The term “dog whistle politics” has been going around of late. Wayne has it right, this isn’t just about a ‘false choice,’ as you put it Jim, they’re attempting to blame the deaths of these kids on us — outright — without actually saying so.

]]> By: God and Forced Options « Mcgiffert’s Weblog http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097/comment-page-1#comment-11373 God and Forced Options « Mcgiffert’s Weblog Tue, 27 May 2008 22:46:10 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/05/27/2097#comment-11373 [...] clipped from www.boxturtlebulletin.com [...] [...] clipped from http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com [...]

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