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	<title>Comments on: Ten State Attorney Generals ask California Supreme Court to Stay Marriage Decision</title>
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		<title>By: cd</title>
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		<dc:creator>cd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that nine states, not ten.

New Hampshire AG Kelly Ayotte actually read the state&#039;s law after signing on to the letter to the California court- and found out that the NH civil unions law actually settles the problem she pretended existed.  So she has formally withdrawn NH from that silly letter.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2008/05/31/nh_no_longer_asking_calif_court_to_delay_marriage_ruling/

I&#039;m not quite sure about the full backstory.  One is that Ayotte is an activist Republican; the other AGs who signed on are also all Republicans.  She was lead defendent in that abortion notification law lawsuit that ended in overturn by the Supreme Court (PPNNE v Ayotte/Ayotte v PPNNE).  That law was passed by an all Republican state government; it has since been repealed by the newly all Democratic NH state government.

I&#039;d be fairly sure that some local LGBT activists raised hell in the state government after reading about the letter to California in the paper, and pointed out that Ayotte couldn&#039;t actually justify her signing on for the reason given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that nine states, not ten.</p>
<p>New Hampshire AG Kelly Ayotte actually read the state&#8217;s law after signing on to the letter to the California court- and found out that the NH civil unions law actually settles the problem she pretended existed.  So she has formally withdrawn NH from that silly letter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2008/05/31/nh_no_longer_asking_calif_court_to_delay_marriage_ruling/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2008/05/31/nh_no_longer_asking_calif_court_to_delay_marriage_ruling/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure about the full backstory.  One is that Ayotte is an activist Republican; the other AGs who signed on are also all Republicans.  She was lead defendent in that abortion notification law lawsuit that ended in overturn by the Supreme Court (PPNNE v Ayotte/Ayotte v PPNNE).  That law was passed by an all Republican state government; it has since been repealed by the newly all Democratic NH state government.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be fairly sure that some local LGBT activists raised hell in the state government after reading about the letter to California in the paper, and pointed out that Ayotte couldn&#8217;t actually justify her signing on for the reason given.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how fleeting our politicians are...

Utah’s Att. Gen. M. Shurtleff was criticized for supporting/backing a legislative hate-crimes bill but this is his re-election year and now he needs to pander to those same critics who just happen to be rabidly homophobic Utahns who wield political clout.  

And, I doubt he will be in any float at next week’s Utah’s pride parade.

It might prove interesting if lots of Californians came to Utah and bought more vacation homes in Park City, Deer Valley or Heber Valley.  (Hint hint:  it’s a buyers market!)   I would love having more “librul” people live here.   

I get the feeling, though, Utah might be the very last State to recognize same-sex marriages and it will only come after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality and a failed Federal Marriage Amendment campaign.   It’s going to be long haul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how fleeting our politicians are&#8230;</p>
<p>Utah’s Att. Gen. M. Shurtleff was criticized for supporting/backing a legislative hate-crimes bill but this is his re-election year and now he needs to pander to those same critics who just happen to be rabidly homophobic Utahns who wield political clout.  </p>
<p>And, I doubt he will be in any float at next week’s Utah’s pride parade.</p>
<p>It might prove interesting if lots of Californians came to Utah and bought more vacation homes in Park City, Deer Valley or Heber Valley.  (Hint hint:  it’s a buyers market!)   I would love having more “librul” people live here.   </p>
<p>I get the feeling, though, Utah might be the very last State to recognize same-sex marriages and it will only come after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality and a failed Federal Marriage Amendment campaign.   It’s going to be long haul.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 11:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ephilei

Indeed!!!</description>
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<p>Indeed!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TxWhtBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TxWhtBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So to you outsiders I say: Go home. You are not Californians. Your constitution is not our constitution. Your laws are not our laws. Your values are not our values. Your biases are not our biases. Stop being meddlesome busy-bodies and leave the citizens of the State of California alone.&quot;

That should be on billboards and full page ads in every newspaper in the ten states asking for the stay. Shocking the Texas AG didn&#039;t jump on that bandwagon but then again he&#039;s not up for reelection. 

I moved away from Cali too soon but the next time I&#039;m out there I want to take you to dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So to you outsiders I say: Go home. You are not Californians. Your constitution is not our constitution. Your laws are not our laws. Your values are not our values. Your biases are not our biases. Stop being meddlesome busy-bodies and leave the citizens of the State of California alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>That should be on billboards and full page ads in every newspaper in the ten states asking for the stay. Shocking the Texas AG didn&#8217;t jump on that bandwagon but then again he&#8217;s not up for reelection. </p>
<p>I moved away from Cali too soon but the next time I&#8217;m out there I want to take you to dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all three points in the post. These states don&#039;t make any sense to me. Can we blame this on the irrationality of homophobia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all three points in the post. These states don&#8217;t make any sense to me. Can we blame this on the irrationality of homophobia?</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just exposes their &quot;let the individual states decide&quot; argument, like all the others, to be bogus and insincere.

If they really believe, as they claim, that individual states should decide for themselves then why are ten states trying to interject themselves into the decision of another.

Liars and scoundrels, the lot of them.

Yet another reason that I&#039;m ashamed to call myself a Floridian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just exposes their &#8220;let the individual states decide&#8221; argument, like all the others, to be bogus and insincere.</p>
<p>If they really believe, as they claim, that individual states should decide for themselves then why are ten states trying to interject themselves into the decision of another.</p>
<p>Liars and scoundrels, the lot of them.</p>
<p>Yet another reason that I&#8217;m ashamed to call myself a Floridian</p>
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