Comments on: Liberty Counsel Needs Refresher Law Class http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:53:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Michael Hamar http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171/comment-page-1#comment-11798 Michael Hamar Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:33:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171#comment-11798 Personally, I suspect that Staver is disingenuous. Most of the Christianist legal "firms" strike me that way. However, some of his mis-statements may stem from incompetence as well. Liberty Counsel represented the appellant in the Virginia/Vermint child custody case decided by the Virginia Supreme Court last week and as my review discusses, Liberty's counsel was apparently not all that good. My blog article is here: http://michael-in-norfolk.blogspot.com/2008/06/miller-jenkins-decision-update.html P.S. I am a Virginia attorney and even as a non-litigator I would have known to properly raise issues and file my appeal timely. Personally, I suspect that Staver is disingenuous. Most of the Christianist legal “firms” strike me that way. However, some of his mis-statements may stem from incompetence as well. Liberty Counsel represented the appellant in the Virginia/Vermint child custody case decided by the Virginia Supreme Court last week and as my review discusses, Liberty’s counsel was apparently not all that good. My blog article is here: http://michael-in-norfolk.blogspot.com/2008/06/miller-jenkins-decision-update.html

P.S. I am a Virginia attorney and even as a non-litigator I would have known to properly raise issues and file my appeal timely.

]]> By: Chet Lemon http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171/comment-page-1#comment-11766 Chet Lemon Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:45:24 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171#comment-11766 "it appears to my reading that the stay had no support at all. While three judges were of the opinion that rehearing should be granted, there is nothing in the ruling that tells me that the decision to deny stay was anything less than unanimous." The request for stay was within the petition for rehearing. There was no independent request for a stay. I think the reference to the stay was included in the order for clarity purposes, so no breakdown of justices was required. Thus, the decision was 4-3. “it appears to my reading that the stay had no support at all. While three judges were of the opinion that rehearing should be granted, there is nothing in the ruling that tells me that the decision to deny stay was anything less than unanimous.”

The request for stay was within the petition for rehearing. There was no independent request for a stay. I think the reference to the stay was included in the order for clarity purposes, so no breakdown of justices was required. Thus, the decision was 4-3.

]]> By: Regan DuCasse http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171/comment-page-1#comment-11765 Regan DuCasse Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:42:41 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171#comment-11765 You GO Tim! I agree and have to wonder myself at the legal competence of Liberty or ADF. I got on the phone with one of ADF's attorneys directly. We were arguing pretty much on legal terms when he decided to ask me about studying law. Which I haven't, formally. Well that ended our conversation. Which up until then, I knew I'd been effective enough to frustrate him and he was losing face. So Tim, your intelligence and clear understanding of the law and how it was applied is correct, but the folks at Liberty or ADF would really hate it if you showed them up on such facts. You GO Tim! I agree and have to wonder myself at the legal competence of Liberty or ADF.

I got on the phone with one of ADF’s attorneys directly. We were arguing pretty much on legal terms when he decided to ask me about studying law.
Which I haven’t, formally.
Well that ended our conversation.
Which up until then, I knew I’d been effective enough to frustrate him and he was losing face.
So Tim, your intelligence and clear understanding of the law and how it was applied is correct, but the folks at Liberty or ADF would really hate it if you showed them up on such facts.

]]> By: GDad http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171/comment-page-1#comment-11761 GDad Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:39:29 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/06/2171#comment-11761 I can't really speak to the guy's competence, but I think it's fair to say that the need for an ethics course is a no-brainer. I can’t really speak to the guy’s competence, but I think it’s fair to say that the need for an ethics course is a no-brainer.

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