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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58380</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Scott,

I&#039;m going to close the thread and let you have the last word.

(Priya Lynn, you also can have the last word on our side discussion)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Scott,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to close the thread and let you have the last word.</p>
<p>(Priya Lynn, you also can have the last word on our side discussion)</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t &quot;evangelize&quot; Timothy, that&#039;s something religious people do.  I suppose I should know better than to expect any modicum of respect from you.  You are clearly motivated to insult me and any excuse to do so will do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t &#8220;evangelize&#8221; Timothy, that&#8217;s something religious people do.  I suppose I should know better than to expect any modicum of respect from you.  You are clearly motivated to insult me and any excuse to do so will do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58377</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Fitch,
The Bible I have quoted from is the New Century Version. I too have read most versions of the Bible. I see no contradictions.

You guys are unreal. You look to eternity as either a myth or you depend on other men&#039;s interpretaions. You leave out what you do not like. You have never experienced a miracle. You have no belief system that gives you any assurance of forgiveness of sin, which all men and women need. Your thinking that the Bibles we have in print are so far from what God said does not show your education but your denial of God&#039;s word. If you can not believe all of it, how can you believe any of it.

Everyone I have seen comment(with the exception of one) are commenting to God, not me. He is witnesss to everything said , done, or thought. Some are atheists. Some are just blind to truth. We all will stand before God in one or another judgement. The Judgement Seat of Christ will be a judgement of what Christians did with what God gave us. The other is The Great White Throne Judgement where those who never were saved will be cast into the lake of fire. My hope is that you will come to Christ before you die.
God&#039;s qustion to each of you may well be, why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Fitch,<br />
The Bible I have quoted from is the New Century Version. I too have read most versions of the Bible. I see no contradictions.</p>
<p>You guys are unreal. You look to eternity as either a myth or you depend on other men&#8217;s interpretaions. You leave out what you do not like. You have never experienced a miracle. You have no belief system that gives you any assurance of forgiveness of sin, which all men and women need. Your thinking that the Bibles we have in print are so far from what God said does not show your education but your denial of God&#8217;s word. If you can not believe all of it, how can you believe any of it.</p>
<p>Everyone I have seen comment(with the exception of one) are commenting to God, not me. He is witnesss to everything said , done, or thought. Some are atheists. Some are just blind to truth. We all will stand before God in one or another judgement. The Judgement Seat of Christ will be a judgement of what Christians did with what God gave us. The other is The Great White Throne Judgement where those who never were saved will be cast into the lake of fire. My hope is that you will come to Christ before you die.<br />
God&#8217;s qustion to each of you may well be, why?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58375</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t wish to be considered evangelical, then don&#039;t evangelize for your beliefs about God(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t wish to be considered evangelical, then don&#8217;t evangelize for your beliefs about God(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58371</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, evangelical is a religious term.  Its insulting for you to continuously apply it to me when you know I am not religous.  I&#039;m asking you to politely stop doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, evangelical is a religious term.  Its insulting for you to continuously apply it to me when you know I am not religous.  I&#8217;m asking you to politely stop doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58366</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy said,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why do I feel like I’m on a street corner with two competing street preachers each yelling into a bullhorn?

I think that the evangelical sermons from Jim Scott and Priya Lynn are about equally unlikely to accomplish anything at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That may be, but Priya speaks from knowledge, reason, and logic, while Jim robotically regurgitates scary myths, superstition, and fairy tales in the hope of having people fall to their knees quaking in fear and crying out for mercy to a barbaric, vindictive, but loving, god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy said,</p>
<blockquote><p>Why do I feel like I’m on a street corner with two competing street preachers each yelling into a bullhorn?</p>
<p>I think that the evangelical sermons from Jim Scott and Priya Lynn are about equally unlikely to accomplish anything at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>That may be, but Priya speaks from knowledge, reason, and logic, while Jim robotically regurgitates scary myths, superstition, and fairy tales in the hope of having people fall to their knees quaking in fear and crying out for mercy to a barbaric, vindictive, but loving, god.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58364</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have my music history books handy any more, but there has been more than one parent who disinherited, or at least made the threat to a child who later became renowned as a musician rather than accepting the career path that had been dictated to them, leaving beyond a very hurt parent. At what point does the child/adult no longer have responsibility to the dictates of those who have given them life and nurture? And if, as current studies seem to demonstrate, the &quot;hurt&quot; is caused by an aspect that is intrinsic to the child.........?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have my music history books handy any more, but there has been more than one parent who disinherited, or at least made the threat to a child who later became renowned as a musician rather than accepting the career path that had been dictated to them, leaving beyond a very hurt parent. At what point does the child/adult no longer have responsibility to the dictates of those who have given them life and nurture? And if, as current studies seem to demonstrate, the &#8220;hurt&#8221; is caused by an aspect that is intrinsic to the child&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Burr</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58362</link>
		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well no one in my family was hurt when I came out. They were all incredibly happy for me and they all love my boyfriend!

So yes I still have not hurt anyone.

And neither has any other gay son or lesbian daughter. If their parents and family feel pain, it&#039;s only because that has been dictated to them by callous people like you, Jim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well no one in my family was hurt when I came out. They were all incredibly happy for me and they all love my boyfriend!</p>
<p>So yes I still have not hurt anyone.</p>
<p>And neither has any other gay son or lesbian daughter. If their parents and family feel pain, it&#8217;s only because that has been dictated to them by callous people like you, Jim.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58360</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh,

Why do I feel like I&#039;m on a street corner with two competing street preachers each yelling into a bullhorn?

I think that the evangelical sermons from Jim Scott and Priya Lynn are about equally unlikely to accomplish anything at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh,</p>
<p>Why do I feel like I&#8217;m on a street corner with two competing street preachers each yelling into a bullhorn?</p>
<p>I think that the evangelical sermons from Jim Scott and Priya Lynn are about equally unlikely to accomplish anything at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/06/15/2211/comment-page-4#comment-58359</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim said &quot;I have seen a lot of greiving parents and siblings that have been hurt tremendously&quot;.

Outrageous nonsense.  A relative&#039;s gayness doesn&#039;t prevent anyone from living their life however they choose - that is the definition of harmless.  No one has the right to dictate to another that they live a chaste life devoid of love and romance just because in their selfish mind they&#039;d like it better if no one was gay.

Jim asked &quot;Are you saved?&quot;.  There is no such thing.  We&#039;re all going to die and that will be the end of us.  It&#039;s absurd to point to Christianity as though it has anything to say about morality as the very foundation of Christianity is a concept of gross injustice - punishment of an innocent person for the wrongs of others.  

We all know instinctively that its wrong to punish someone for something they didn&#039;t do and that an uninvolved third party can&#039;t take responsibility for the actions of others.  Yet Christianity is founded on the idea that a loving and just god punished the innocent Jesus for the wrongs of others and that this punishement absolved people of guilt for their wrongs.

Our justice system never says its right to punish an innocent person, they idea is abhorrent to all right thinking people.  By the same token, if a stranger walked into a murder trial, cut his arm and said &quot;I&#039;ve punished myself in place of this person, let him go free&quot; we&#039;d all look at him like he was crazy and yet such insanity is at the heart of Christianity.

We all know its wrong to invade the privacy of a marriage and take another man&#039;s wife and impregnate her without his permission - we&#039;d call that evil in real life.  Yet Chrisitians claim this wrong act is what their god did and they bizzarely call it holy.  

The ideas of gross injustice at the heart of Chrisianity show that it can in no way ever be a guideline for moral behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim said &#8220;I have seen a lot of greiving parents and siblings that have been hurt tremendously&#8221;.</p>
<p>Outrageous nonsense.  A relative&#8217;s gayness doesn&#8217;t prevent anyone from living their life however they choose &#8211; that is the definition of harmless.  No one has the right to dictate to another that they live a chaste life devoid of love and romance just because in their selfish mind they&#8217;d like it better if no one was gay.</p>
<p>Jim asked &#8220;Are you saved?&#8221;.  There is no such thing.  We&#8217;re all going to die and that will be the end of us.  It&#8217;s absurd to point to Christianity as though it has anything to say about morality as the very foundation of Christianity is a concept of gross injustice &#8211; punishment of an innocent person for the wrongs of others.  </p>
<p>We all know instinctively that its wrong to punish someone for something they didn&#8217;t do and that an uninvolved third party can&#8217;t take responsibility for the actions of others.  Yet Christianity is founded on the idea that a loving and just god punished the innocent Jesus for the wrongs of others and that this punishement absolved people of guilt for their wrongs.</p>
<p>Our justice system never says its right to punish an innocent person, they idea is abhorrent to all right thinking people.  By the same token, if a stranger walked into a murder trial, cut his arm and said &#8220;I&#8217;ve punished myself in place of this person, let him go free&#8221; we&#8217;d all look at him like he was crazy and yet such insanity is at the heart of Christianity.</p>
<p>We all know its wrong to invade the privacy of a marriage and take another man&#8217;s wife and impregnate her without his permission &#8211; we&#8217;d call that evil in real life.  Yet Chrisitians claim this wrong act is what their god did and they bizzarely call it holy.  </p>
<p>The ideas of gross injustice at the heart of Chrisianity show that it can in no way ever be a guideline for moral behavior.</p>
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