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	<title>Comments on: David Benkof, Signing Off</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-2#comment-13586</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Benkof has left the room.  He says that he has left the conversation about marriage.  He&#039;s pulled his website.  I don&#039;t see any value in continuing to dispute him here.

Rather than extend the conversation in this confrontational (and pointless) direction, I&#039;m going to close the comments on this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Benkof has left the room.  He says that he has left the conversation about marriage.  He&#8217;s pulled his website.  I don&#8217;t see any value in continuing to dispute him here.</p>
<p>Rather than extend the conversation in this confrontational (and pointless) direction, I&#8217;m going to close the comments on this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-2#comment-13582</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Benkof&#039;s column:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Thus, when I try to restrict legal marriage to man-woman couples - by using my one vote and my First Amendment rights - I am doing what I believe God wants me to do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And when radical Muslims use the Qur&#039;an to justify murder they are just doing what they believe Allah wants them to do.  Perhaps David should recall that the mere existence of Israel, an &#039;infidel&#039; state, in their Islamic Ummah is a violation of their religious beliefs.  Using Benkof&#039;s logic, they are completely justified in using any and all means in expelling or killing those Jews and Christians who do not accept dhimmitude. 

No David, your right to freedom of religion ends when it impacts me from exercising my rights as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Benkof&#8217;s column:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thus, when I try to restrict legal marriage to man-woman couples &#8211; by using my one vote and my First Amendment rights &#8211; I am doing what I believe God wants me to do.</p></blockquote>
<p>And when radical Muslims use the Qur&#8217;an to justify murder they are just doing what they believe Allah wants them to do.  Perhaps David should recall that the mere existence of Israel, an &#8216;infidel&#8217; state, in their Islamic Ummah is a violation of their religious beliefs.  Using Benkof&#8217;s logic, they are completely justified in using any and all means in expelling or killing those Jews and Christians who do not accept dhimmitude. </p>
<p>No David, your right to freedom of religion ends when it impacts me from exercising my rights as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kaatz</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-2#comment-13581</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kaatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
You said:  &quot;Patrick-
I agree with almost every word of your post. I did not own the site, but had decided I did not want to blog there anymore, and thus had no problem when the site owners saw no purpose to leaving it up without a blogger.&quot;

I&#039;m a bit confused here.  If I look up the domain info on this site, your name is plastered all over it--you are listed as the Administrative contact, the Technical contact and is registered in South Carolina.  The email contact that is given is &quot;Benkof, David webbsgarbage@yahoo.com.&quot;
If you are not the site owner, then who is?

My guess is that it is Margaret Gallagher, at the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy.  I guess the email address you give for the domain registry of gaysdefendmarriage.com email address is webbsgarbage@yahoo.com and when I did a search for that, it isn&#039;t your name that comes up, but Margaret Gallagher (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/marriagedebate.com). 

Maybe you can clear up this confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
You said:  &#8220;Patrick-<br />
I agree with almost every word of your post. I did not own the site, but had decided I did not want to blog there anymore, and thus had no problem when the site owners saw no purpose to leaving it up without a blogger.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit confused here.  If I look up the domain info on this site, your name is plastered all over it&#8211;you are listed as the Administrative contact, the Technical contact and is registered in South Carolina.  The email contact that is given is &#8220;Benkof, David <a href="mailto:webbsgarbage@yahoo.com">webbsgarbage@yahoo.com</a>.&#8221;<br />
If you are not the site owner, then who is?</p>
<p>My guess is that it is Margaret Gallagher, at the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy.  I guess the email address you give for the domain registry of gaysdefendmarriage.com email address is <a href="mailto:webbsgarbage@yahoo.com">webbsgarbage@yahoo.com</a> and when I did a search for that, it isn&#8217;t your name that comes up, but Margaret Gallagher (<a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/marriagedebate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/marriagedebate.com</a>). </p>
<p>Maybe you can clear up this confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-1#comment-13580</link>
		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;I’d be happy to talk to Emproph and anyone else who doesn’t wish me to shut up via E-mail&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Why would I trust you by email if you can’t even answer two yes or no questions about the importance of importance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I’d be happy to talk to Emproph and anyone else who doesn’t wish me to shut up via E-mail&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Why would I trust you by email if you can’t even answer two yes or no questions about the importance of importance?</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-1#comment-13578</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess he&#039;s going to fight for marriage inequality over in Israel, where he&#039;ll find many JEWISH Far-Right allies. This guy just wants an easy win. But something tells me he won&#039;t find it in Israel, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess he&#8217;s going to fight for marriage inequality over in Israel, where he&#8217;ll find many JEWISH Far-Right allies. This guy just wants an easy win. But something tells me he won&#8217;t find it in Israel, either.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-1#comment-13577</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, asking for equality is shoving something down your throat?   Then, prepare to open wide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, asking for equality is shoving something down your throat?   Then, prepare to open wide.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-1#comment-13572</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s best to let David sign off.  The tone of the discussion has veered from civil and the topic of discussion is no longer closely related to the posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s best to let David sign off.  The tone of the discussion has veered from civil and the topic of discussion is no longer closely related to the posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-1#comment-13571</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What i would prefer, Benkof, is that you come clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What i would prefer, Benkof, is that you come clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-1#comment-13570</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I read that today. I&#039;ll be writing to htem later if i have a chance. Basically, you are saying that the tyranny of the majority is leigitimate if you agree with it. If that were true, we&#039;d still have segrgeation in the south. and if &quot;The Handmaid&#039;s Tale&quot; is a predictor, the majorty will decide that kikes and fags have no place in the ocming morning in America. but then, you&#039;ll be in Israel.

Disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I read that today. I&#8217;ll be writing to htem later if i have a chance. Basically, you are saying that the tyranny of the majority is leigitimate if you agree with it. If that were true, we&#8217;d still have segrgeation in the south. and if &#8220;The Handmaid&#8217;s Tale&#8221; is a predictor, the majorty will decide that kikes and fags have no place in the ocming morning in America. but then, you&#8217;ll be in Israel.</p>
<p>Disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/13/2355/comment-page-1#comment-13568</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And apparently he has to get in the last word.  But don&#039;t worry he won&#039;t be back:
&quot;This will be my last comment in this thread.&quot;

It&#039;s 9:10am CST.  Any bets on how many minutes till he comes back to post on how he&#039;s not going to post in this thread anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And apparently he has to get in the last word.  But don&#8217;t worry he won&#8217;t be back:<br />
&#8220;This will be my last comment in this thread.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s 9:10am CST.  Any bets on how many minutes till he comes back to post on how he&#8217;s not going to post in this thread anymore?</p>
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