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	<title>Comments on: Certified Cameronite: Insure.com</title>
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		<title>By: Matt Algren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Algren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was doing some research on Cameron and ran across this article. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insure.com/articles/lifeinsurance/gay-men-die-young.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article from insure.com&lt;/a&gt; is gone, with the link redirecting to an article called &quot;The life insurance outlook for
HIV-positive gay men&quot;, which shows an update on July 31, 2008. Not sure about the veracity of their new statistics, but Bland&#039;s name is nowhere near the article.

Incidentally, we may have a new Certified Cameronite waiting in the wings, depending on interpretation of paragraph 13 of George Guthrie&#039;s article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=3468&amp;Itemid=9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“No True Compassion Apart From Revelation”&lt;/a&gt;. 

(More information at my blog, plug plug plug.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was doing some research on Cameron and ran across this article. The <a href="http://www.insure.com/articles/lifeinsurance/gay-men-die-young.html" rel="nofollow">article from insure.com</a> is gone, with the link redirecting to an article called &#8220;The life insurance outlook for<br />
HIV-positive gay men&#8221;, which shows an update on July 31, 2008. Not sure about the veracity of their new statistics, but Bland&#8217;s name is nowhere near the article.</p>
<p>Incidentally, we may have a new Certified Cameronite waiting in the wings, depending on interpretation of paragraph 13 of George Guthrie&#8217;s article <a href="http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=3468&amp;Itemid=9" rel="nofollow">“No True Compassion Apart From Revelation”</a>. </p>
<p>(More information at my blog, plug plug plug.)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A letter from Robert Bland to Reason Magazine in 2002 concerning sexual abuse by Catholic priests may help illuminate his mindset and agenda. This sentence jumped out as a smoking gun (emphasis mine):
&lt;blockquote&gt;While the Catholic Church very publicly and painfully begins to purge its ranks of &lt;strong&gt;sodomites &lt;/strong&gt;and child abusers, one can only hope that other large organizations will follow suit. &lt;/blockquote&gt;This would seem to tell us most of what we need to know about Mr. Bland.

The full letter can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/news/show/34181.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s near the bottom of the page. (I doubt that it could be from a different Robert Bland since his location is listed as Darien, IL, the same as Insure.com&#039;s mailing address.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A letter from Robert Bland to Reason Magazine in 2002 concerning sexual abuse by Catholic priests may help illuminate his mindset and agenda. This sentence jumped out as a smoking gun (emphasis mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>While the Catholic Church very publicly and painfully begins to purge its ranks of <strong>sodomites </strong>and child abusers, one can only hope that other large organizations will follow suit. </p></blockquote>
<p>This would seem to tell us most of what we need to know about Mr. Bland.</p>
<p>The full letter can be found <a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/34181.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It&#8217;s near the bottom of the page. (I doubt that it could be from a different Robert Bland since his location is listed as Darien, IL, the same as Insure.com&#8217;s mailing address.)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I stand corrected.  Perhaps Cameron felt emboldened at that point, since he had nothing further to lose.  

Serves me right for doubting you...(grin).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I stand corrected.  Perhaps Cameron felt emboldened at that point, since he had nothing further to lose.  </p>
<p>Serves me right for doubting you&#8230;(grin).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

You may be thinking of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2006/02/27/4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this incident&lt;/a&gt; in 2006. FOTF had long since gotten rid of any mention of Cameron by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>You may be thinking of <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2006/02/27/4" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">this incident</a> in 2006. FOTF had long since gotten rid of any mention of Cameron by then.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick ONeill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick ONeill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone in CA PLEASE file a complaint against this company ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone in CA PLEASE file a complaint against this company ?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Burroway wrote: &quot;His obvious hatred for gays and lesbians so poisons everything he writes that Focus On the Family scrubbed their materials of all mention of him more than a decade ago.&quot;

I thought that Focus on the Family only got rid the Cameron&#039;s material after Cameron started insulting Dobson publicly about some ballot measure in Colorado.  I think you may be giving Focus on the Family more credit than they deserve by implying their actions were due to concern about the truth when in comes to social science research about gays and lesbians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Burroway wrote: &#8220;His obvious hatred for gays and lesbians so poisons everything he writes that Focus On the Family scrubbed their materials of all mention of him more than a decade ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought that Focus on the Family only got rid the Cameron&#8217;s material after Cameron started insulting Dobson publicly about some ballot measure in Colorado.  I think you may be giving Focus on the Family more credit than they deserve by implying their actions were due to concern about the truth when in comes to social science research about gays and lesbians.</p>
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