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	<title>Comments on: PFOX Misrepresents LGBT Suicide Research</title>
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		<title>By: GDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, now that I look at it, the math may not even work the way I described.

It only talks about a 20% decrease for each year into the future, and I calculated a 20% increase for each year into the past.  If someone else wants to revise my numbers, please do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, now that I look at it, the math may not even work the way I described.</p>
<p>It only talks about a 20% decrease for each year into the future, and I calculated a 20% increase for each year into the past.  If someone else wants to revise my numbers, please do.</p>
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		<title>By: GDad</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/22/2404/comment-page-1#comment-13987</link>
		<dc:creator>GDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuki Choe,

The math may not quite work that way.  If the risk of suicide for an LGBTQ(etc.) 15-year-old is, say, 10%, then increasing 20% each previous year puts them at 12% at 14, 14.4% at 13, 17.28% at 12, 20.736% at 11, and 24.8832% at 10.  I&#039;m intentionally going out to stupid precision in my decimals, because I agree with you that the premise is fallacious.

Of course, logic and truthfulness are rarely qualities I would associate with PFOX.  I do find it interesting that their web site has gone to great pains to hide any religious motivation for their beliefs and practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuki Choe,</p>
<p>The math may not quite work that way.  If the risk of suicide for an LGBTQ(etc.) 15-year-old is, say, 10%, then increasing 20% each previous year puts them at 12% at 14, 14.4% at 13, 17.28% at 12, 20.736% at 11, and 24.8832% at 10.  I&#8217;m intentionally going out to stupid precision in my decimals, because I agree with you that the premise is fallacious.</p>
<p>Of course, logic and truthfulness are rarely qualities I would associate with PFOX.  I do find it interesting that their web site has gone to great pains to hide any religious motivation for their beliefs and practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuki Choe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuki Choe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sympathetic article about a 15-year-old boy...&quot;

&quot;Research has shown that the risk of suicide decreases by 20% each year that a person delays homosexual or bisexual self-labeling....&quot;

Is that not a ridiculous claim by itself? By that logic, taking a person 15 years of age as a marker; that means if a person comes out at age 10 there are risks that he or she will commit suicide immediately. Or, if the person turns 20 there would be no risk for the person to commit suicide at all.

Odd, is it not?</description>
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<p>&#8220;Research has shown that the risk of suicide decreases by 20% each year that a person delays homosexual or bisexual self-labeling&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that not a ridiculous claim by itself? By that logic, taking a person 15 years of age as a marker; that means if a person comes out at age 10 there are risks that he or she will commit suicide immediately. Or, if the person turns 20 there would be no risk for the person to commit suicide at all.</p>
<p>Odd, is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
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		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, One News Now, that &quot;bastion of truth&quot; claimed that the study was &quot;recent.&quot; How can a 17-year-old study be considered as &quot;recent?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, One News Now, that &#8220;bastion of truth&#8221; claimed that the study was &#8220;recent.&#8221; How can a 17-year-old study be considered as &#8220;recent?&#8221;</p>
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