Comments on: PFOX’s Griggs Goes Off the Deep End http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Fri, 24 May 2013 02:17:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Christine http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468/comment-page-1#comment-14882 Christine Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:27:57 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468#comment-14882 Thanks to Box Turtle Bulletin for documenting these things. You know, when an individual makes a false claim against another individual, they can be sued for defamation of character or libel; when they make false claims against groups, there is no legal recourse. I think this should be changed. The Christian Right's coffers could be emptied in a day if GLBT folks could sue for the lies they tell about us on a daily basis. If PFOX (I mean Regina Griggs) took the sin of "false witness" seriously, she'd do her homework. Do ex-gay groups really believe that LGBT people will buy that they truly "love" us? I guess love has a different definition to them, like the word "change." Thanks to Box Turtle Bulletin for documenting these things. You know, when an individual makes a false claim against another individual, they can be sued for defamation of character or libel; when they make false claims against groups, there is no legal recourse. I think this should be changed. The Christian Right’s coffers could be emptied in a day if GLBT folks could sue for the lies they tell about us on a daily basis.

If PFOX (I mean Regina Griggs) took the sin of “false witness” seriously, she’d do her homework.

Do ex-gay groups really believe that LGBT people will buy that they truly “love” us? I guess love has a different definition to them, like the word “change.”

]]> By: Neil H http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468/comment-page-1#comment-14746 Neil H Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:13:12 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468#comment-14746 The original OneNewsNow article has apparently changed: they've flagged the Griggs statistic with an "editor's note" at the end of the article which reads (in very tiny print): "In June of 2007 the Centers for Disease Control stated that homosexual sex accounted for 71 percent of all HIV infections." They don't specify when or where the CDC supposedly claimed this, naturally. Besides the obvious statistical ineptitude of misinterpreting "over 70% of HIV infections are from homosexual sex" as "over 70% of homosexuals have HIV" , I don't see where the "13-24 year old" claim comes from at all, if this alleged CDC information is really the statistic that Griggs was misinterpreting. I personally doubt very much that it was. The original OneNewsNow article has apparently changed: they’ve flagged the Griggs statistic with an “editor’s note” at the end of the article which reads (in very tiny print): “In June of 2007 the Centers for Disease Control stated that homosexual sex accounted for 71 percent of all HIV infections.” They don’t specify when or where the CDC supposedly claimed this, naturally.

Besides the obvious statistical ineptitude of misinterpreting “over 70% of HIV infections are from homosexual sex” as “over 70% of homosexuals have HIV” , I don’t see where the “13-24 year old” claim comes from at all, if this alleged CDC information is really the statistic that Griggs was misinterpreting. I personally doubt very much that it was.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468/comment-page-1#comment-14697 Priya Lynn Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:35:42 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468#comment-14697 I can't get over their hypocritical claim to be "friends of exgays <i>and gays</i>. I sent them a couple of emails simply asking them in what way they were the friends of gays and no response. I tried to call and pose that question to them as well but got an answering machine and they never returned my call. It'd be sweet to have a reporter pose that question to Griggs and watch her squirm. I can’t get over their hypocritical claim to be “friends of exgays and gays. I sent them a couple of emails simply asking them in what way they were the friends of gays and no response. I tried to call and pose that question to them as well but got an answering machine and they never returned my call. It’d be sweet to have a reporter pose that question to Griggs and watch her squirm.

]]> By: Samantha Davis http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468/comment-page-1#comment-14677 Samantha Davis Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:16:12 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/30/2468#comment-14677 Humanity: try it, you might like it! Humanity: try it, you might like it!

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