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	<title>Comments on: Sci-Fi Writer Advocates Overthrow of Government If Prop 8 Fails</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: Get Your Own Fridge &#8211; Orson Scott Card and Superman &#124; The Nerd Signal</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2478/comment-page-2#comment-251559</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Your Own Fridge &#8211; Orson Scott Card and Superman &#124; The Nerd Signal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Card has gone as far as rewriting Hamlet to link homosexuallity with pedeophilia (no, seriously). He wrote that if Prop 8 failed in California, he would “act to destroy that government and bring it down, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Card has gone as far as rewriting Hamlet to link homosexuallity with pedeophilia (no, seriously). He wrote that if Prop 8 failed in California, he would “act to destroy that government and bring it down, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Main Street Plaza &#187; The Religious Right is Swiftboating Same Sex Marriage in Maine</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2478/comment-page-1#comment-81315</link>
		<dc:creator>Main Street Plaza &#187; The Religious Right is Swiftboating Same Sex Marriage in Maine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Orson Scott Card who called for the overthrow of civil government if Prop 8 failed in California.  According to an op-ed in the July 24, 2008 Mormon Times, Card said: &#8220;How long before married people answer the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Orson Scott Card who called for the overthrow of civil government if Prop 8 failed in California.  According to an op-ed in the July 24, 2008 Mormon Times, Card said: &#8220;How long before married people answer the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Grigorii</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2478/comment-page-1#comment-54463</link>
		<dc:creator>Grigorii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to found this interesting article. Never knew this, but its logged with me now. I never read many of his books anyway. How I found this site was searching &quot;anti gay scifi writers&quot; since I wished to post some horrid finding in a LeSprague De Camp book I was reading which stated gays must be kept away from any boys because they were all potential molestors. Just sick stupdity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to found this interesting article. Never knew this, but its logged with me now. I never read many of his books anyway. How I found this site was searching &#8220;anti gay scifi writers&#8221; since I wished to post some horrid finding in a LeSprague De Camp book I was reading which stated gays must be kept away from any boys because they were all potential molestors. Just sick stupdity!</p>
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		<title>By: hazelnutty.net &#8250; Orson Scott Card Joins NOM Board</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazelnutty.net &#8250; Orson Scott Card Joins NOM Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mormon, and has made some pretty ridiculous claims about homosexuals: Last summer, Orson Scott Card called for the overthrow of civil government if California’s Proposition 8 had failed. Writing for the Mormon Times, he said: &quot;Regardless of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mormon, and has made some pretty ridiculous claims about homosexuals: Last summer, Orson Scott Card called for the overthrow of civil government if California’s Proposition 8 had failed. Writing for the Mormon Times, he said: &#8220;Regardless of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2478/comment-page-1#comment-15395</link>
		<dc:creator>Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ender&#039;s Game features young men wrestling each other in the shower, naked, while covered in soap.  Methinks Card has some issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ender&#8217;s Game features young men wrestling each other in the shower, naked, while covered in soap.  Methinks Card has some issues.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2478/comment-page-1#comment-15293</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This even made the monologue on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.  This kind of P.R. is not helping the Proposition 8 folk in California.  This should be where we can show a link of the irrational religious zealous in Utah as one of the crazed proponents of Proposition 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This even made the monologue on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.  This kind of P.R. is not helping the Proposition 8 folk in California.  This should be where we can show a link of the irrational religious zealous in Utah as one of the crazed proponents of Proposition 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2478/comment-page-1#comment-15062</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully ironic! Western Civilization is destroyed after all . . . by the heterosexuals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully ironic! Western Civilization is destroyed after all . . . by the heterosexuals!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!  I have read his ender series, I really liked it.  Out of it I got the idea of Love being the main and important force in the universe and that tolerance for others must be paramount... I hate when I find out stuff about authors I thought I knew....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  I have read his ender series, I really liked it.  Out of it I got the idea of Love being the main and important force in the universe and that tolerance for others must be paramount&#8230; I hate when I find out stuff about authors I thought I knew&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: NancyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>NancyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The short story Ender&#039;s Game was a decent one, if rather obvious even at the time (child raised in what amounts to a video game school, with a bit of kung fu master thrown in). One type of successful short story needs punch but not much characterization or pacing, and he was starting out reasonably well. I gather he didn&#039;t provide the extras in his long-form writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The short story Ender&#8217;s Game was a decent one, if rather obvious even at the time (child raised in what amounts to a video game school, with a bit of kung fu master thrown in). One type of successful short story needs punch but not much characterization or pacing, and he was starting out reasonably well. I gather he didn&#8217;t provide the extras in his long-form writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Suricou Raven</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/08/01/2478/comment-page-1#comment-14991</link>
		<dc:creator>Suricou Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Authors do change over time:

Piers Anthony went from respectable to super-hyper-mega-pervert.
Orson Scot Card has turned into a raving loon.
L.R Hubbard... well, that depends how much of his later works he actually believed in. He was either crazy, or one hell of a con artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Authors do change over time:</p>
<p>Piers Anthony went from respectable to super-hyper-mega-pervert.<br />
Orson Scot Card has turned into a raving loon.<br />
L.R Hubbard&#8230; well, that depends how much of his later works he actually believed in. He was either crazy, or one hell of a con artist.</p>
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