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	<title>Comments on: My Very Favorite Gagnonism</title>
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		<title>By: About Robert Gagnon Rebuking Exodus &#124; RandyThomas.Co</title>
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		<dc:creator>About Robert Gagnon Rebuking Exodus &#124; RandyThomas.Co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at least, he is much more interested in the gospel of stigmatization. He likes to call gay people homosexualists and believes homosexuality is in fact a worse sin than other sins. He also does not believe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at least, he is much more interested in the gospel of stigmatization. He likes to call gay people homosexualists and believes homosexuality is in fact a worse sin than other sins. He also does not believe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Truth* Academy Instructor Series: Robert Gagnon &#124; Asterisk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth* Academy Instructor Series: Robert Gagnon &#124; Asterisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in 2008 in an article directed at Timothy Kincaid of Box Turtle Bulletin. He said&#8230; Well, I&#8217;ll let Kincaid tell you. You may have heard of Matthew 7:1-6. You may even have thought it was about acceptance and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in 2008 in an article directed at Timothy Kincaid of Box Turtle Bulletin. He said&#8230; Well, I&#8217;ll let Kincaid tell you. You may have heard of Matthew 7:1-6. You may even have thought it was about acceptance and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: revtj</title>
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		<dc:creator>revtj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS : My reading of the gospels indicates Jesus was a true submissive. But calling him a &quot;power bottom&quot; is probably a little anachronistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS : My reading of the gospels indicates Jesus was a true submissive. But calling him a &#8220;power bottom&#8221; is probably a little anachronistic.</p>
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		<title>By: revtj</title>
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		<dc:creator>revtj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presbyterian homophobia is so complex. It&#039;s more than the usual, &quot;God told me to hate you,&quot; but adds an unchangeable veneer of, &quot;it was pre-ordained that I hate you before time began,&quot; thus judging gays becomes a fulfillment and not a departure from Jesus&#039; teaching. It is no wonder the denomination has argued this issue for nearly 30 years and made virtually no progress at all. It is comforting to know that well over 50% of the layfolks are sick of the issue, would happily welcome gay people to their congregations, and see their leadership as being strangely obsessed with this issue. Is there something in our reptile brain that makes us want to use the bottom and then blame him? I think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presbyterian homophobia is so complex. It&#8217;s more than the usual, &#8220;God told me to hate you,&#8221; but adds an unchangeable veneer of, &#8220;it was pre-ordained that I hate you before time began,&#8221; thus judging gays becomes a fulfillment and not a departure from Jesus&#8217; teaching. It is no wonder the denomination has argued this issue for nearly 30 years and made virtually no progress at all. It is comforting to know that well over 50% of the layfolks are sick of the issue, would happily welcome gay people to their congregations, and see their leadership as being strangely obsessed with this issue. Is there something in our reptile brain that makes us want to use the bottom and then blame him? I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason that lesbians may be largely ignored by the anti-gay crowd is that a substantial percentage of straight men are actually titillated by the thought of lesbian action. Lesbian sex scenes are common in straight porn.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynn David-- sounds like some sort of freudian slip to ME!!!

I&#039;ve just informed my husband that Gagnon&#039;s ignorance knows no bounds, and than in fact my pearls are just melons. He said &quot;Typical for those fundamentalists. They can&#039;t get ANYTHING um, aahhh, straight. But at least you&#039;re not a dog or a swine, except when it comes to hte kitchen floor.&quot;

aahh, the gay marriage agenda. Infecting even something as normal and natural as housework.

When will we be free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn David&#8211; sounds like some sort of freudian slip to ME!!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just informed my husband that Gagnon&#8217;s ignorance knows no bounds, and than in fact my pearls are just melons. He said &#8220;Typical for those fundamentalists. They can&#8217;t get ANYTHING um, aahhh, straight. But at least you&#8217;re not a dog or a swine, except when it comes to hte kitchen floor.&#8221;</p>
<p>aahh, the gay marriage agenda. Infecting even something as normal and natural as housework.</p>
<p>When will we be free?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YIKES!  That was supposed to be &quot;good orgasm,&quot; not &quot;god orgasm.&quot;  Sorry.  I can&#039;t imagine what that would be.... no, really I can&#039;t, I&#039;m an atheist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YIKES!  That was supposed to be &#8220;good orgasm,&#8221; not &#8220;god orgasm.&#8221;  Sorry.  I can&#8217;t imagine what that would be&#8230;. no, really I can&#8217;t, I&#8217;m an atheist.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self-described holy ones?   I thought &lt;i&gt;qedeshim&lt;/i&gt; did mean holy ones in the languages of the Hebrews/Canaanites, in whose temples they were housed (and not sodomite as translated in 1Kings by the KJV and others).   Just as the town of Kadesh (Qedesh) meant holy place.  It sounds as if Gagnon doesn&#039;t even care to give the Hebrew or Canaanite languages their proper due.

Uh.... &lt;b&gt;Ben in Oakland&lt;/b&gt;, the [sacred] pearls would be another man&#039;s semen... the butt in question would be that of a dog/swine.   I remember getting this attitude from Gagnon when I read his work sometime back.  Anyone who thinks... or &lt;i&gt;desires&lt;/i&gt; to think that way has some serious problems/issues/whatever....

And &lt;b&gt;Jake&lt;/b&gt;, in the old days of the Biblical lands it was OK to top, though not based upon the Hebrew&#039;s Levitical laws, there both are condemned.  And in much of Middle Eastern cultures tops are not considered to be homosexual (which is much as it was with the generally bottom qedeshim in the Canaanite temples).   In the bronze age topping was something you did to a defeated foe on the battlefield, if he plead for his life.  I guess if the top had a god orgasm, the defeated foe (bottom) could get himself away from the topper (or cut his head off with a discarded sword).  Oh well....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self-described holy ones?   I thought <i>qedeshim</i> did mean holy ones in the languages of the Hebrews/Canaanites, in whose temples they were housed (and not sodomite as translated in 1Kings by the KJV and others).   Just as the town of Kadesh (Qedesh) meant holy place.  It sounds as if Gagnon doesn&#8217;t even care to give the Hebrew or Canaanite languages their proper due.</p>
<p>Uh&#8230;. <b>Ben in Oakland</b>, the [sacred] pearls would be another man&#8217;s semen&#8230; the butt in question would be that of a dog/swine.   I remember getting this attitude from Gagnon when I read his work sometime back.  Anyone who thinks&#8230; or <i>desires</i> to think that way has some serious problems/issues/whatever&#8230;.</p>
<p>And <b>Jake</b>, in the old days of the Biblical lands it was OK to top, though not based upon the Hebrew&#8217;s Levitical laws, there both are condemned.  And in much of Middle Eastern cultures tops are not considered to be homosexual (which is much as it was with the generally bottom qedeshim in the Canaanite temples).   In the bronze age topping was something you did to a defeated foe on the battlefield, if he plead for his life.  I guess if the top had a god orgasm, the defeated foe (bottom) could get himself away from the topper (or cut his head off with a discarded sword).  Oh well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it&#039;s okay to top?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s okay to top?</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t a single straight man who obsesses obsessively about gay sex. All of my straight male friends are mildly curious about the mechanics, but could care less about whether guys are actually doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t a single straight man who obsesses obsessively about gay sex. All of my straight male friends are mildly curious about the mechanics, but could care less about whether guys are actually doing it.</p>
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