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		<title>By: Mombian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Political Roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mombian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Political Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Box Turtle Bulletin offers an important reminder of why each of the three states facing anti-marriage equality ballots [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Box Turtle Bulletin offers an important reminder of why each of the three states facing anti-marriage equality ballots [...]</p>
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		<title>By: News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Each State Is Important</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/09/2870/comment-page-1#comment-16947</link>
		<dc:creator>News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Each State Is Important</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shares his thoughts on why all three anti-marriage amendment battles are important. About Arizona, he writes: Arizona has the distinct privilege of being the only state to date that has rejected efforts to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] shares his thoughts on why all three anti-marriage amendment battles are important. About Arizona, he writes: Arizona has the distinct privilege of being the only state to date that has rejected efforts to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cowboy, good question.

I can&#039;t speak for Florida or California. But I do know that as of the August filing deadline, opponents to Prop 102 had only raised $8000. As you can imagine, that doesn&#039;t buy any billboards or TV. We have local community allies lined to for radio ads, but we&#039;re still trying to raise money for airtime.

Time is of the essence. None of this happens unless &lt;a href&quot;http://www.votenoprop102.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;people give generously&lt;/a&gt;. The right wing orgs have lined up more than 100 people to give at least $10,000 individually. Unfortunately, we&#039;re not seeing anything close to that level of giving on the anti-prop 102 side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowboy, good question.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Florida or California. But I do know that as of the August filing deadline, opponents to Prop 102 had only raised $8000. As you can imagine, that doesn&#8217;t buy any billboards or TV. We have local community allies lined to for radio ads, but we&#8217;re still trying to raise money for airtime.</p>
<p>Time is of the essence. None of this happens unless <a href"http://www.votenoprop102.com/" rel="nofollow">people give generously</a>. The right wing orgs have lined up more than 100 people to give at least $10,000 individually. Unfortunately, we&#8217;re not seeing anything close to that level of giving on the anti-prop 102 side.</p>
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		<title>By: Eight weeks out at Lesbian Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eight weeks out at Lesbian Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here.) *[Added later the same day: Timothy Kincaid at Box Turtle Bulletin published a piece today, Why Each State is Important, clarifying the stakes in each of the anti-gay marriage battles this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here.) *[Added later the same day: Timothy Kincaid at Box Turtle Bulletin published a piece today, Why Each State is Important, clarifying the stakes in each of the anti-gay marriage battles this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Suricou Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suricou Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If we lose California, if they defeat the marriage amendment, I’m afraid that the culture war is over and Christians have lost.&quot;

If he loses California, I am sure he will keep right on campaigning anyway. He will just redefine &#039;lost,&#039; or more likely forget he ever said that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we lose California, if they defeat the marriage amendment, I’m afraid that the culture war is over and Christians have lost.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he loses California, I am sure he will keep right on campaigning anyway. He will just redefine &#8216;lost,&#8217; or more likely forget he ever said that.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any ads (pro and con) that we can view?  What are citizens in these three states seeing on billboards, on TV, etc.?    We, who are living outside those states, are not readily seeing the fruits of our contributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any ads (pro and con) that we can view?  What are citizens in these three states seeing on billboards, on TV, etc.?    We, who are living outside those states, are not readily seeing the fruits of our contributions.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/09/2870/comment-page-1#comment-16646</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t recent polls show Californians rejecting their amendment by about 54%? Is the Calif. no side well funded? As you say the Fla. amendment needs another 5% to pass. Are they well funded?

I wonder if people think that since Ariz. has defeated such an amendment once they&#039;ll easily do it again. What do polls say?

I&#039;ve heard you say the Ariz. no side is not well funded. If polls say it is an easy win than having unbalanced funding may not be a big deal.

I understand the importance and symbolism of wins in all three states. But do polls show the urgency in unlocking my wallet? Yep, I don&#039;t part with my dollars easily, though when Michigan went through this in 2004 I found the key to my wallet readily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t recent polls show Californians rejecting their amendment by about 54%? Is the Calif. no side well funded? As you say the Fla. amendment needs another 5% to pass. Are they well funded?</p>
<p>I wonder if people think that since Ariz. has defeated such an amendment once they&#8217;ll easily do it again. What do polls say?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard you say the Ariz. no side is not well funded. If polls say it is an easy win than having unbalanced funding may not be a big deal.</p>
<p>I understand the importance and symbolism of wins in all three states. But do polls show the urgency in unlocking my wallet? Yep, I don&#8217;t part with my dollars easily, though when Michigan went through this in 2004 I found the key to my wallet readily.</p>
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		<title>By: AJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to sound pessimistic, but it&#039;s important to remember that even if we win against all three of these propositions, a majority of states still have gay-marriage bans in their constitutions, and the only way to get rid of them will be to pass amendments that cancel them (unlikely) or get the Supreme Court to declare them unconstitutional (unlikely in the near future) or amend the U.S. Constitution to protect same-sex marriage (very unlikely).

The big issue here isn&#039;t just gay marriage, discrimination or abortion -- it&#039;s the extent to which we&#039;re willing to let the Christian Taliban interfere with our personal lives.

I think we have a lot of potential allies we&#039;re neglecting, including church-state separation activists and even a lot of libertarians and Goldwater conservatives.

The people who support these bans need to be told that a) not one argument in favor of them has any merit whatsoever and b) they need to learn the ancient words of wisdom: &quot;Mind your own f----n&#039; business and stop trying to mess with my life.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to sound pessimistic, but it&#8217;s important to remember that even if we win against all three of these propositions, a majority of states still have gay-marriage bans in their constitutions, and the only way to get rid of them will be to pass amendments that cancel them (unlikely) or get the Supreme Court to declare them unconstitutional (unlikely in the near future) or amend the U.S. Constitution to protect same-sex marriage (very unlikely).</p>
<p>The big issue here isn&#8217;t just gay marriage, discrimination or abortion &#8212; it&#8217;s the extent to which we&#8217;re willing to let the Christian Taliban interfere with our personal lives.</p>
<p>I think we have a lot of potential allies we&#8217;re neglecting, including church-state separation activists and even a lot of libertarians and Goldwater conservatives.</p>
<p>The people who support these bans need to be told that a) not one argument in favor of them has any merit whatsoever and b) they need to learn the ancient words of wisdom: &#8220;Mind your own f&#8212;-n&#8217; business and stop trying to mess with my life.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/09/2870/comment-page-1#comment-16634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just contributed to the Florida campaign, $25.  The most I can do right now.  I just got a new job and they&#039;re paying me substantially less than my last job.  I chose the one that seemed to be getting the least amount of attention.

I&#039;ve shared this article on facebook and I&#039;m about to twitter it, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just contributed to the Florida campaign, $25.  The most I can do right now.  I just got a new job and they&#8217;re paying me substantially less than my last job.  I chose the one that seemed to be getting the least amount of attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve shared this article on facebook and I&#8217;m about to twitter it, too.</p>
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