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	<title>Comments on: Episcopal Bishops to Oppose Proposition 8</title>
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		<title>By: markinnc</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/09/2883/comment-page-1#comment-16821</link>
		<dc:creator>markinnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tavdy,

You&#039;re right. It&#039;s all the dioceses in CA.
My mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tavdy,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. It&#8217;s all the dioceses in CA.<br />
My mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/09/2883/comment-page-1#comment-16798</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people of California, Arizona and Florida has to know the proponents of the anti-gay marriage propositions are coming from powerful (read: rich) organized tax-exempt religions.  Their influence with their resources (both with people and cash) is staggering.  

Is that how a Republic should be run?  

I would point out Mormons think their interpretation of marriage is the only valid one.  They have the right to that opinion and they can use their tithing to build huge Temples (two new ones in Arizona) to their dogma but they have no right to dictate to the rest of the people what constitutes a marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people of California, Arizona and Florida has to know the proponents of the anti-gay marriage propositions are coming from powerful (read: rich) organized tax-exempt religions.  Their influence with their resources (both with people and cash) is staggering.  </p>
<p>Is that how a Republic should be run?  </p>
<p>I would point out Mormons think their interpretation of marriage is the only valid one.  They have the right to that opinion and they can use their tithing to build huge Temples (two new ones in Arizona) to their dogma but they have no right to dictate to the rest of the people what constitutes a marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget the United Church of Christ in this civil rights struggle.  It was the UCC which was the first major denomination to ordain a gay man, a lesbian, and a transgendered person.  It was the first denomination to support marriage equality and has a long history fighting for civil rights.  It filed amicus briefs in the In Re Marriage Cases and both its national and regional organizations are working together to defeat Prop. 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the United Church of Christ in this civil rights struggle.  It was the UCC which was the first major denomination to ordain a gay man, a lesbian, and a transgendered person.  It was the first denomination to support marriage equality and has a long history fighting for civil rights.  It filed amicus briefs in the In Re Marriage Cases and both its national and regional organizations are working together to defeat Prop. 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Tavdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tavdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>markinnc, the second quote that Kincaid included starts with the following statement:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;All six bishops in the state will officially protest the traditional marriage amendment&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

If, as you say, there are six dioceses, there will also (presumably) be six diocesan bishops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>markinnc, the second quote that Kincaid included starts with the following statement:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;All six bishops in the state will officially protest the traditional marriage amendment&#8221;</i></p>
<p>If, as you say, there are six dioceses, there will also (presumably) be six diocesan bishops.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real horror about this political debate: it pits neighbor against neighbor.   No matter the outcome of this election, I would be reluctant to be kind to a neighbor who placed a &lt;b&gt;YES on Prop 8&lt;/b&gt; sign on his lawn.   And I wonder how a Mormon would feel towards a neighbor who placed a &lt;b&gt;NO on Prop 8&lt;/b&gt; on their lawn.  It can be a bit dicey even before the ballots are counted.    

Strange, isn’t it.  The “love” that is coming at us from some religious people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real horror about this political debate: it pits neighbor against neighbor.   No matter the outcome of this election, I would be reluctant to be kind to a neighbor who placed a <b>YES on Prop 8</b> sign on his lawn.   And I wonder how a Mormon would feel towards a neighbor who placed a <b>NO on Prop 8</b> on their lawn.  It can be a bit dicey even before the ballots are counted.    </p>
<p>Strange, isn’t it.  The “love” that is coming at us from some religious people.</p>
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		<title>By: markinnc</title>
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		<dc:creator>markinnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to hear this, but I wanted to let you know that the first sentence in your article is kind of misleading. You say the &quot;Episcopal Church in California&quot; opposes Prop 8, as if the entire Episcopal Church in CA is against it, but the Episcopal Diocese of California only covers a small portion of California, including the bay area. The Episcopal church has about five other dioceses in California. I just felt the article needed some clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to hear this, but I wanted to let you know that the first sentence in your article is kind of misleading. You say the &#8220;Episcopal Church in California&#8221; opposes Prop 8, as if the entire Episcopal Church in CA is against it, but the Episcopal Diocese of California only covers a small portion of California, including the bay area. The Episcopal church has about five other dioceses in California. I just felt the article needed some clarification.</p>
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