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	<title>Comments on: Family &#8220;Research&#8221; Council: Racism for Sale</title>
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		<title>By: Raymond Carnation</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/13/2919/comment-page-1#comment-17963</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Carnation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
   My name is Raymond Carnation I was a Phila.Police Officer that opposed racism in the dept. and was fired.I along with two other white ex-officers won a Precedential case and was awarded 10 Million Dolllars. The case was Moore vs. The City Of Philadelphia NOS.03-1465 and 03-1473.To better understand you can Google me or the case.We would like to get this story to the public. If you or your staff could help support this story together we can educateour nation on this ongoing problem.Yours Truly, Raymond Carnation  email around4life@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
   My name is Raymond Carnation I was a Phila.Police Officer that opposed racism in the dept. and was fired.I along with two other white ex-officers won a Precedential case and was awarded 10 Million Dolllars. The case was Moore vs. The City Of Philadelphia NOS.03-1465 and 03-1473.To better understand you can Google me or the case.We would like to get this story to the public. If you or your staff could help support this story together we can educateour nation on this ongoing problem.Yours Truly, Raymond Carnation  email <a href="mailto:around4life@aol.com">around4life@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/13/2919/comment-page-1#comment-17952</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised at all they didn&#039;t realize this is racist. If you surround yourself with whites, you have no context to understand what offends anyone else. A reason to purposely expose yourself to diversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised at all they didn&#8217;t realize this is racist. If you surround yourself with whites, you have no context to understand what offends anyone else. A reason to purposely expose yourself to diversity.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had the same runaround with the people who marketed the SockObama sock puppets.  Their ignorance about the racial overtones was blinded by their sheer opportunism to make a buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had the same runaround with the people who marketed the SockObama sock puppets.  Their ignorance about the racial overtones was blinded by their sheer opportunism to make a buck.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michigan-Matt just doesn&#039;t get it.  There&#039;s nothing that ISN&#039;T racist about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michigan-Matt just doesn&#8217;t get it.  There&#8217;s nothing that ISN&#8217;T racist about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/13/2919/comment-page-1#comment-17433</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michigan-Matt,

You are completely off the rails on this one. Even Bishop Harry Jackson, one of the FRC&#039;s Summit participants and sponsors, &lt;a href=&quot;http://townhall.com/columnists/HarryRJacksonJr/2008/09/15/obama_waffles_stir_conflict_at_christian_conference&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;denounced it as ugly racism&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michigan-Matt,</p>
<p>You are completely off the rails on this one. Even Bishop Harry Jackson, one of the FRC&#8217;s Summit participants and sponsors, <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/HarryRJacksonJr/2008/09/15/obama_waffles_stir_conflict_at_christian_conference" rel="nofollow">denounced it as ugly racism</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/13/2919/comment-page-1#comment-17426</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on guys!  This is frickin&#039; hillary-ous... Obama as a pitchman for waffles... with all the waffling he&#039;s done so far in the campaign?  It&#039;s not syrup --it&#039;s waffles you put the AJ syrup on.

It&#039;s dead-on funny.  Nothing racist about it.  If you want to see real, ugly racism in all it&#039;s glory one only need attend Obama&#039;s former church.  Now that&#039;s racial bigotry in daily practice.

Nope, this is just plain ol&#039; funny and getting our panties in a tight wad isn&#039;t going to change the Obama loss on Election Day.  We gotta laugh now because it&#039;s all tears for the next 50 days.

Waffles, not syrup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on guys!  This is frickin&#8217; hillary-ous&#8230; Obama as a pitchman for waffles&#8230; with all the waffling he&#8217;s done so far in the campaign?  It&#8217;s not syrup &#8211;it&#8217;s waffles you put the AJ syrup on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s dead-on funny.  Nothing racist about it.  If you want to see real, ugly racism in all it&#8217;s glory one only need attend Obama&#8217;s former church.  Now that&#8217;s racial bigotry in daily practice.</p>
<p>Nope, this is just plain ol&#8217; funny and getting our panties in a tight wad isn&#8217;t going to change the Obama loss on Election Day.  We gotta laugh now because it&#8217;s all tears for the next 50 days.</p>
<p>Waffles, not syrup.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another link about this &quot;product&quot;.  The two guys who produced it have connections to Focus on the Family and Tim LaHaye.

http://www.alternet.org/election08/98908/christian_right_voter_summit_sells_racist_%27obama_waffles%27/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another link about this &#8220;product&#8221;.  The two guys who produced it have connections to Focus on the Family and Tim LaHaye.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/election08/98908/christian_right_voter_summit_sells_racist_%27obama_waffles%27/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/election08/98908/christian_right_voter_summit_sells_racist_%27obama_waffles%27/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of shoving this thread further off topic, I can&#039;t help but point out that after Clinton signed DOMA into law, his 1996 presidential campaign bought ads on Christian radio stations to brag about it as proof of his &quot;pro-family&quot; credentials.

I have always found his defense of DOMA as self-serving and not very credible. It boils down to &quot;I wanted to do A, but did B instead, which makes A easier to accomplish than doing A itself.&quot; He often tried that contrarian logic in order to have it both ways on many things he did. I never bought it. Neither should anyone else. That&#039;s the classic definition of talking out of both sides of one&#039;s mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of shoving this thread further off topic, I can&#8217;t help but point out that after Clinton signed DOMA into law, his 1996 presidential campaign bought ads on Christian radio stations to brag about it as proof of his &#8220;pro-family&#8221; credentials.</p>
<p>I have always found his defense of DOMA as self-serving and not very credible. It boils down to &#8220;I wanted to do A, but did B instead, which makes A easier to accomplish than doing A itself.&#8221; He often tried that contrarian logic in order to have it both ways on many things he did. I never bought it. Neither should anyone else. That&#8217;s the classic definition of talking out of both sides of one&#8217;s mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie89,

I believe that Bob Barr now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid54947.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reversed his position&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie89,</p>
<p>I believe that Bob Barr now <a href="http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid54947.asp" rel="nofollow">reversed his position</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Clinton signed DOMA and DADT into law, but DADT was after he failed to get rid of the ban altogether, and DOMA may actually be helping states enact gay marriage by removing the fear that it will cross state lines under the Full Faith and Credit Clause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Clinton signed DOMA and DADT into law, but DADT was after he failed to get rid of the ban altogether, and DOMA may actually be helping states enact gay marriage by removing the fear that it will cross state lines under the Full Faith and Credit Clause.</p>
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