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	<title>Comments on: Field Poll: Prop 8 Support Declining</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/18/2994/comment-page-1#comment-22270</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Ross Perot said &quot;you people&quot; it was taken as an offensive term.  But when you use it, Dale, I can actually hear the hatred behind it.

I&#039;ll not worry about history, Dale.  You see, I can read the polling and easily tell that time is on my side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Ross Perot said &#8220;you people&#8221; it was taken as an offensive term.  But when you use it, Dale, I can actually hear the hatred behind it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll not worry about history, Dale.  You see, I can read the polling and easily tell that time is on my side.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Andersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, it passed.

Shocking.

How did that happen?

I got it.  

Maybe the MAJORITY decided to go in a different direction.

Maybe you people aren&#039;t &quot;where it&#039;s at&quot; anymore.  

Maybe you people are the left-behinders, the dead-enders, going nowhere, irrelevent.

How does it feel to be relegated to the dustbin of history?

You don&#039;t have to answer.  It was a rhetorical question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, it passed.</p>
<p>Shocking.</p>
<p>How did that happen?</p>
<p>I got it.  </p>
<p>Maybe the MAJORITY decided to go in a different direction.</p>
<p>Maybe you people aren&#8217;t &#8220;where it&#8217;s at&#8221; anymore.  </p>
<p>Maybe you people are the left-behinders, the dead-enders, going nowhere, irrelevent.</p>
<p>How does it feel to be relegated to the dustbin of history?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to answer.  It was a rhetorical question.</p>
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		<title>By: AJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna, I assume you meant to say, &quot;Why is everyone afraid of the amendment NOT passing.&quot; Correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna, I assume you meant to say, &#8220;Why is everyone afraid of the amendment NOT passing.&#8221; Correct?</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is eveyone so afraid of this passing? Who is it really going to hurt? Are you afraid your kids may become gay? They have minds of their own, you can&#039;t make them one way or the other! Get over it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is eveyone so afraid of this passing? Who is it really going to hurt? Are you afraid your kids may become gay? They have minds of their own, you can&#8217;t make them one way or the other! Get over it!</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/18/2994/comment-page-1#comment-17647</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks rusty.

We also discussed when Bastian &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/28/2446&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pledged &lt;/a&gt;the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks rusty.</p>
<p>We also discussed when Bastian <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/07/28/2446" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">pledged </a>the money.</p>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/18/2994/comment-page-1#comment-17634</link>
		<dc:creator>rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay Ex-Mormon Bruce Bastian Donates $1 Million to &#039;Say No to Prop. 8&#039;

http://www.gaywired.com/Article.cfm?ID=20368

WOO HOO!

Now let&#039;s see what else happens. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay Ex-Mormon Bruce Bastian Donates $1 Million to &#8216;Say No to Prop. 8&#8242;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gaywired.com/Article.cfm?ID=20368" rel="nofollow">http://www.gaywired.com/Article.cfm?ID=20368</a></p>
<p>WOO HOO!</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s see what else happens. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/18/2994/comment-page-1#comment-17624</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Public Policy Institute poll from the end of August showed 40% for, 54% opposed, and 6% undecided.  This poll presents a slight improvement from those figures.  The current poll shows 1% more undecided than the PPI poll, it wouldn&#039;t be too surprising if those people moved back into the &quot;for&quot; prop 8 column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Public Policy Institute poll from the end of August showed 40% for, 54% opposed, and 6% undecided.  This poll presents a slight improvement from those figures.  The current poll shows 1% more undecided than the PPI poll, it wouldn&#8217;t be too surprising if those people moved back into the &#8220;for&#8221; prop 8 column.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I absolutely agree. We not only need every vote to make sure we defeat it (and AZ and FL), we need to defeat it by as wide a margin as possible. If the victory is extremely close, they may well be back. there is a great deal of money and power at stake.

On another note, everyone can do something against all three initiatives. It will not only help defeat them, but it will also help to make your life better. 

COME OUT. 

If you are not compromising your physical safety, COME OUT. If there are people in your life who do not know you are gay, COME OUT. If they live in one of the three states, COME OUT. Even if they don&#039;t live there, COME OUT.

And do it NOW. Not eventually, not next month, but NOW.

Talk to your friends and families about what is at stake. Ask them for your sake to vote no on 8 or 102 or however Charlie Crist&#039;s beard is identified. 

If they cannot vote NO, then ask them not to vote on it at all. Not voting on it at all is better than voting for it.

Reasearch and epxerience both show that people who know gay people do not vote against them. The closet is the enemy, not the Rabid Right. not your parents. not your pastor. Not your family. The closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I absolutely agree. We not only need every vote to make sure we defeat it (and AZ and FL), we need to defeat it by as wide a margin as possible. If the victory is extremely close, they may well be back. there is a great deal of money and power at stake.</p>
<p>On another note, everyone can do something against all three initiatives. It will not only help defeat them, but it will also help to make your life better. </p>
<p>COME OUT. </p>
<p>If you are not compromising your physical safety, COME OUT. If there are people in your life who do not know you are gay, COME OUT. If they live in one of the three states, COME OUT. Even if they don&#8217;t live there, COME OUT.</p>
<p>And do it NOW. Not eventually, not next month, but NOW.</p>
<p>Talk to your friends and families about what is at stake. Ask them for your sake to vote no on 8 or 102 or however Charlie Crist&#8217;s beard is identified. </p>
<p>If they cannot vote NO, then ask them not to vote on it at all. Not voting on it at all is better than voting for it.</p>
<p>Reasearch and epxerience both show that people who know gay people do not vote against them. The closet is the enemy, not the Rabid Right. not your parents. not your pastor. Not your family. The closet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/09/18/2994/comment-page-1#comment-17618</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my worry, when I see these positive poll results is that we&#039;ll have a bunch of lazy people stay home on election day because they figure &quot;oh, it&#039;s not going to pass, what&#039;s one less vote?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my worry, when I see these positive poll results is that we&#8217;ll have a bunch of lazy people stay home on election day because they figure &#8220;oh, it&#8217;s not going to pass, what&#8217;s one less vote?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: New Field Poll: More and more Californians supporting marriage equality &#171; break the terror</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Field Poll: More and more Californians supporting marriage equality &#171; break the terror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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