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	<title>Comments on: Slavic Students in Sacramento Community College Counsel Endorse Prop 8</title>
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		<title>By: ARCStudentsWin</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-40713</link>
		<dc:creator>ARCStudentsWin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARC Students spoke up in record numbers during the last elections and overwhelmingly voted against the bigoted Russians. One word to you hateful bigots, this is MY country, if you don&#039;t like it go back to your own s**tty backwater. You have no right to immigrate to this country and then treat its citizens with disrespect. No immigrant should make an American feel unsafe in their own country.This is not Russia, if you want to live in hatred and bigotry go home!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARC Students spoke up in record numbers during the last elections and overwhelmingly voted against the bigoted Russians. One word to you hateful bigots, this is MY country, if you don&#8217;t like it go back to your own s**tty backwater. You have no right to immigrate to this country and then treat its citizens with disrespect. No immigrant should make an American feel unsafe in their own country.This is not Russia, if you want to live in hatred and bigotry go home!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SCC student</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-38497</link>
		<dc:creator>SCC student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so what if t.a.t.u are kissing? they are performers trying to attract males to their concerts. they don&#039;t yell to their fans, hey guys, you saw us kissing, now go marry each other and sleep with each other. if they did, then they would be hated too cause that for-real homosexual behavior is so ammoral it&#039;s disgusting. marriage is not a civil rights issue. civil rights movements are for people who ended up in a minority by fate, not by choice. otherwise everyone who wants to dance in the city shopping mall naked can yell his/her freedom and civil rights as a nudist minority are being violated when they get thrown out. or mexican illegals can yell their freedom of life is being violated when they get deported. if you decided to be ammoral and live your life that way, go hide in your house and don&#039;t try to convert normal people and their children to your sick ways. perversion is the reason why polygamy and incest and inbreeding were outlawed and homosexuality is in the same category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so what if t.a.t.u are kissing? they are performers trying to attract males to their concerts. they don&#8217;t yell to their fans, hey guys, you saw us kissing, now go marry each other and sleep with each other. if they did, then they would be hated too cause that for-real homosexual behavior is so ammoral it&#8217;s disgusting. marriage is not a civil rights issue. civil rights movements are for people who ended up in a minority by fate, not by choice. otherwise everyone who wants to dance in the city shopping mall naked can yell his/her freedom and civil rights as a nudist minority are being violated when they get thrown out. or mexican illegals can yell their freedom of life is being violated when they get deported. if you decided to be ammoral and live your life that way, go hide in your house and don&#8217;t try to convert normal people and their children to your sick ways. perversion is the reason why polygamy and incest and inbreeding were outlawed and homosexuality is in the same category.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-37193</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Richard Z., ever hear of &lt;a href=&quot;http://fuseblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/tatu04web.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;t.A.T.u.&lt;/a&gt;??

LOL 

Even though they&#039;re not gay - but they sure love kissing each other full on, on the mouth, with tongue..and they&#039;re very um &quot;close.&quot; 

Seems pretty gay to ME.

So sometimes you get the best of both worlds - russian and gay!

(OH also, I&#039;m 3rd gen. Russian-American and *actually* gay. Yup! best of both worlds.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Richard Z., ever hear of <a href="http://fuseblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/tatu04web.jpg" rel="nofollow">t.A.T.u.</a>??</p>
<p>LOL </p>
<p>Even though they&#8217;re not gay &#8211; but they sure love kissing each other full on, on the mouth, with tongue..and they&#8217;re very um &#8220;close.&#8221; </p>
<p>Seems pretty gay to ME.</p>
<p>So sometimes you get the best of both worlds &#8211; russian and gay!</p>
<p>(OH also, I&#8217;m 3rd gen. Russian-American and *actually* gay. Yup! best of both worlds.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-37186</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The gays there should sit quiet and not be heard.&quot;

This is a rather anti-freedom, anti-American statement.  America is the land of opportunity, of freedom, of living as you see fit -- not the land of sitting quiet and not being heard.

And history shows that no minority, no matter how strongly disliked, gives up, gives in, or loses the fight.  Sooner or later, &lt;b&gt;they win&lt;/b&gt;.  It is merely a matter of time before we overcome this.  Prop 8 is not the final word, again, this is not how our government works, we reserve the right to revisit our rules, laws at any point in time.  The sale of alcohol was legal, then it was not legal, then it was legalized again.  The only thing set in stone about our government is it&#039;s principles of representative government and freedom...and even then, we do talk about both limiting and expanding freedoms.

Nothing lasts forever, especially not legislation born of fear, lies, and distortions.  Gays deserve everything that every other America deserves.  We will accept NOTHING less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The gays there should sit quiet and not be heard.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a rather anti-freedom, anti-American statement.  America is the land of opportunity, of freedom, of living as you see fit &#8212; not the land of sitting quiet and not being heard.</p>
<p>And history shows that no minority, no matter how strongly disliked, gives up, gives in, or loses the fight.  Sooner or later, <b>they win</b>.  It is merely a matter of time before we overcome this.  Prop 8 is not the final word, again, this is not how our government works, we reserve the right to revisit our rules, laws at any point in time.  The sale of alcohol was legal, then it was not legal, then it was legalized again.  The only thing set in stone about our government is it&#8217;s principles of representative government and freedom&#8230;and even then, we do talk about both limiting and expanding freedoms.</p>
<p>Nothing lasts forever, especially not legislation born of fear, lies, and distortions.  Gays deserve everything that every other America deserves.  We will accept NOTHING less.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Z.</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-37180</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Z.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GAYS DON&#039;T DESERVE ANYTHING!! First of all, Prop 8 is over and done. The gays there should sit quiet and not be heard. CA voted and it&#039;s done. We don&#039;t want to embarrace California with your stupid sickness and perversion. Nobody won&#039;t care about your lawsuits. Take a look at how munch money the proposition was spent on. YES for RUSSIANS, No for GAYS!

Yes on 8 - Always and Forever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GAYS DON&#8217;T DESERVE ANYTHING!! First of all, Prop 8 is over and done. The gays there should sit quiet and not be heard. CA voted and it&#8217;s done. We don&#8217;t want to embarrace California with your stupid sickness and perversion. Nobody won&#8217;t care about your lawsuits. Take a look at how munch money the proposition was spent on. YES for RUSSIANS, No for GAYS!</p>
<p>Yes on 8 &#8211; Always and Forever!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-37179</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks God for all students who ENDORSE PROP 8! Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks God for all students who ENDORSE PROP 8! Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Kel Munger</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-18561</link>
		<dc:creator>Kel Munger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, simply because Johnson didn&#039;t have a vote, don&#039;t think he&#039;s not involved in this mess. 

Second, you&#039;re right; the resolution is just the flash point for a great deal of resentment at the way this particular slate of officers handled their campaigns and the way that they have been conducting business. 

But don&#039;t discount the amount of anger directed specifically at them for the Prop 8 resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, simply because Johnson didn&#8217;t have a vote, don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s not involved in this mess. </p>
<p>Second, you&#8217;re right; the resolution is just the flash point for a great deal of resentment at the way this particular slate of officers handled their campaigns and the way that they have been conducting business. </p>
<p>But don&#8217;t discount the amount of anger directed specifically at them for the Prop 8 resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: ARC_student</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-18490</link>
		<dc:creator>ARC_student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog fails to mention that the recall effort includes Jacob Johnson, the Council President who, as the Bee reported, &quot;did not have a vote in the matter.&quot;
Being an active, voting student at ARC, I understand what the recall effort is about, and why Jacob Johnson is on the recall allegedly about the Prop 8 vote. 

The Recall effort is really about the last Student Association administration still being upset that they lost their seats on the Council, including the President position. They are using this Prop 8 vote as a thinly veiled attempt to give an excuse for kicking the current Council out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog fails to mention that the recall effort includes Jacob Johnson, the Council President who, as the Bee reported, &#8220;did not have a vote in the matter.&#8221;<br />
Being an active, voting student at ARC, I understand what the recall effort is about, and why Jacob Johnson is on the recall allegedly about the Prop 8 vote. </p>
<p>The Recall effort is really about the last Student Association administration still being upset that they lost their seats on the Council, including the President position. They are using this Prop 8 vote as a thinly veiled attempt to give an excuse for kicking the current Council out.</p>
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		<title>By: AJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, I agree. I&#039;m not against Russians in general, either (hell, I slept with a Russian guy once...). But these Russian Baptists scare the living crap out of me. The hatred emanating from the Orthodox church is bad enough, but these people are just over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, I agree. I&#8217;m not against Russians in general, either (hell, I slept with a Russian guy once&#8230;). But these Russian Baptists scare the living crap out of me. The hatred emanating from the Orthodox church is bad enough, but these people are just over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: adam kautz</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/01/3239/comment-page-1#comment-18422</link>
		<dc:creator>adam kautz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me hate those Russian evangelicals even more. Notice I didn&#039;t say Russian, just the evangelical Russians. Most Russians I know aren&#039;t that hateful or bigoted. It just proves that conservative evangelical Christianity attracts intellectually challenged people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me hate those Russian evangelicals even more. Notice I didn&#8217;t say Russian, just the evangelical Russians. Most Russians I know aren&#8217;t that hateful or bigoted. It just proves that conservative evangelical Christianity attracts intellectually challenged people.</p>
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