Obviously, you are really concerned with what Mormons think.. more so than promoting your own cause to people who might actually accept your side.

Protesting against temple workers and goers definately shows the lack of understanding of LDS people, not to mention many other parts of the LDS religion such as their feeling towards SSA.

I’m very sorry if anyone in previous posts has felt violation from people in the LDS faith because of their SSA. It mustn’t have been easy for you and regardless of what happened no one should feel unloved or rejected. Please remember that not everyone in this world has the hurtful intentions you expressed, including in the LDS church, so it’s unfair to demonize LDS people just because of unjust treatment done to you by imperfect individuals.

Good luck to all in their convictions! May the polls be the judge of what’s “best”

A group protests at the LDS HQ:
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_10753975?source=rv

A cartoon:
http://extras.sltrib.com/bagley/Archive.asp?Vol=content&Num=3

Some of the rationalizations have been shallow and almost laughable: (using semantics about the word “marriage”, “we’re not anti-gay” (when obviously they are), “forcing something down our throats” (when we are the oppressed faction here), etc.

But, my dear family and friends are struggling with what they feel in their gut. I’m just hoping in the privacy behind the voting booth curtain they do what is right. It’s only them and the ballot and no one from the Church is looking at how they voted.

But, this is really an indication for all of us to see how strong and powerful a group can get. We are witnessing the sheer numbers and the value of unpaid volunteers and how phone trees can work. I believe some Mormons are seeing/reaffirming their “power”…or maybe seeing a demonstration of their organizational skills.

They’re proud of this….and will continue to be proud of their might and dedication to the cause no matter the outcome on November 4th.

I suppose I was being less than temperate when I called the church a raving bigot. Maybe i should have left it at bigot. If somebody tried to do to the mormon church what they do to gay people, they would definitely use the word bigot. and feel attacked because they did not share those others’ religious beliefs.

Oh, wait!!!! somebody already did that to the mormons. that’s how they ended up in Utah. You’d think they would have learned something about acceptance from that experience.

(Also, the Temples are generally closed on Mondays too.)

Dude, you don’t have to accept a thing. I just expect the federal and state governments to give equal protection to gay couples. That’s it.

There are plenty of people who don’t accept interracial marriages, plenty of kids get disowned for marrying the “wrong” person whether that be because of weight, gender, background, religion, class, etc.

When you get down to it, legally, marriage is a contract, nothing more. It’s voluntary, and you are not required to produce children, happiness, or anything else. You are simply legally bonded to one another. This allows you to make decisions for each other when needed, visit the hospital, deal with the unpleasant business of the remains of your partner, but this is not a sacred or sanctified institution. It’s a contract. You want the sacred? You want the holy? Then talk to your church about it. You want it to be legal? Then you need a contract, a government contract. All we’re after is the government contract, that’s it. I don’t care if every church in the nation says we’re not really married, I really don’t care what they think. I just don’t want to spend the next 50 years of my life caring, laughing, and loving someone only to have it all mean zero when one of us passes on. I want the dignity and respect from my government that any straight couple can get any day of the week.

Nearly every word that has come out of the prop. 8 campaign has been a lie, distortion, half-truth, or outright slander– including “the” “and” and “but”. All easily proven– timothy has done so. and that lying pperdine lawyer knows it.

So what exactly is the moral stand that your church is taking?

Beating up on gay people who are not mormons? moral.

Beating up on gay people who arE? moral.

Lying through your ecclesiastical teeth to support your bigtory. Also moral.

Honey. you do the math.