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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/27/5284/comment-page-1#comment-20527</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, cody. Please feel free to use it however you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, cody. Please feel free to use it however you can.</p>
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		<title>By: codyj</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/27/5284/comment-page-1#comment-20524</link>
		<dc:creator>codyj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOD LUCK, BEN !! What a WONDERFULL letter, it also, as it has other readers,brought a tear to my eye..so TRUE for ALL of &quot;us&#039; . Best Regards,Best Wishes, and good luck, to you, now ,and ALWAYS. Cody J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOD LUCK, BEN !! What a WONDERFULL letter, it also, as it has other readers,brought a tear to my eye..so TRUE for ALL of &#8220;us&#8217; . Best Regards,Best Wishes, and good luck, to you, now ,and ALWAYS. Cody J</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/27/5284/comment-page-1#comment-20445</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile-- yoo-hoo, el rose!! Are you here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile&#8211; yoo-hoo, el rose!! Are you here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks, sappho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, sappho.</p>
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		<title>By: Sapphocrat</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/27/5284/comment-page-1#comment-20395</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapphocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful, Ben. If I write ten million more words on marriage, I&#039;ll never say as much as you have in single letter, and certainly never approach your eloquence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful, Ben. If I write ten million more words on marriage, I&#8217;ll never say as much as you have in single letter, and certainly never approach your eloquence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/10/27/5284/comment-page-1#comment-20366</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome. We must all do what we can. The LA News is going to publish it as well. I sure hope a few others follow suit. It was a lot of work getting this written ando ut to 30 newspapers across the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome. We must all do what we can. The LA News is going to publish it as well. I sure hope a few others follow suit. It was a lot of work getting this written ando ut to 30 newspapers across the state.</p>
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		<title>By: zortnac</title>
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		<dc:creator>zortnac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the letter and the inspiration Ben.  I&#039;ve written to my home town&#039;s paper hoping to follow suit :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the letter and the inspiration Ben.  I&#8217;ve written to my home town&#8217;s paper hoping to follow suit :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Louie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Rose wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
...nor do you share the same ideas of monogomy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First off, you misspelled &quot;monogamy&quot;. Sorry, blame my honors English teacher. And English wasn&#039;t even my FIRST language! DOH!

As far as I knew, there is and always has been only 1 definition for &quot;monogamy&quot;. Unless something has changed or us &quot;gays&quot; are supposed to use an alternate dictionary, my definition for &quot;monogamy&quot; is the following:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/sexual-health-glossary?page=8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Monogamy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
The practice of having sex with only one partner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For this example, I used the definition from WebMD one of the world&#039;s most popular medical websites.

Hmm, their definition for &quot;monogamy&quot; is exactly what I thought &quot;monogamy&quot; meant as well.

So, let&#039;s apply this &quot;definition&quot; to a real world example.

My &quot;husband&quot; and I have been married for the past 12 years in our hearts and &quot;legally&quot; in California for the past 4 months.

In the past 12 years, I have &lt;b&gt;ONLY&lt;/b&gt; had sex with &lt;b&gt;ONE&lt;/b&gt; person, my beloved.

In the past 12 years, my beloved has &lt;b&gt;ONLY&lt;/b&gt; had sex with &lt;b&gt;ONE&lt;/b&gt; person, me.

This certainly seems to qualify as &quot;monogamy&quot; to me.

And you get to vote on whether or not I deserve to get &quot;civil&quot; rights under the eyes of the law of the State of California?!

&quot;Beam me up, Scotty!&quot;

&lt;b&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://noonprop8.com/home/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;California - Vote &quot;NO&quot; on Prop. 8!&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://votenoprop102.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Arizona - Vote &quot;NO&quot; on Prop. 102! AGAIN!&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sayno2.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Florida - Vote &quot;NO&quot; on Amendment 2!&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctvoteno.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Connecticut - Vote &quot;NO&quot; on Question 1!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Rose wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8230;nor do you share the same ideas of monogomy.</p></blockquote>
<p>First off, you misspelled &#8220;monogamy&#8221;. Sorry, blame my honors English teacher. And English wasn&#8217;t even my FIRST language! DOH!</p>
<p>As far as I knew, there is and always has been only 1 definition for &#8220;monogamy&#8221;. Unless something has changed or us &#8220;gays&#8221; are supposed to use an alternate dictionary, my definition for &#8220;monogamy&#8221; is the following:</p>
<blockquote><p><b><a href="http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/sexual-health-glossary?page=8" rel="nofollow">Monogamy</a></b>:<br />
The practice of having sex with only one partner.</p></blockquote>
<p>For this example, I used the definition from WebMD one of the world&#8217;s most popular medical websites.</p>
<p>Hmm, their definition for &#8220;monogamy&#8221; is exactly what I thought &#8220;monogamy&#8221; meant as well.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s apply this &#8220;definition&#8221; to a real world example.</p>
<p>My &#8220;husband&#8221; and I have been married for the past 12 years in our hearts and &#8220;legally&#8221; in California for the past 4 months.</p>
<p>In the past 12 years, I have <b>ONLY</b> had sex with <b>ONE</b> person, my beloved.</p>
<p>In the past 12 years, my beloved has <b>ONLY</b> had sex with <b>ONE</b> person, me.</p>
<p>This certainly seems to qualify as &#8220;monogamy&#8221; to me.</p>
<p>And you get to vote on whether or not I deserve to get &#8220;civil&#8221; rights under the eyes of the law of the State of California?!</p>
<p>&#8220;Beam me up, Scotty!&#8221;</p>
<p><b><br />
<a href="http://noonprop8.com/home/" rel="nofollow">California &#8211; Vote &#8220;NO&#8221; on Prop. 8!</a><br />
<a href="http://votenoprop102.com/" rel="nofollow">Arizona &#8211; Vote &#8220;NO&#8221; on Prop. 102! AGAIN!</a><br />
<a href="http://www.sayno2.com/" rel="nofollow">Florida &#8211; Vote &#8220;NO&#8221; on Amendment 2!</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ctvoteno.org/" rel="nofollow">Connecticut &#8211; Vote &#8220;NO&#8221; on Question 1!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>el rose: &quot;YOu are 2 men or 2 women who want to be given the same rights and privledges as heterosexuals but you are not heterosexuals. &quot;

thanks for clairfying. It is truly all aobut prejudice for you, isn&#039;t it? &quot;You just want the same rights and privileges as (white people) (Christians)(English speakers)(Men)... but you&#039;re not blah blahblah.

It&#039;s all about the myth of heterosexual superiority in service to the reality of heterosexual privilege to enforce the myth of heterosexual hegemony.

honey, you&#039;re just heterosexual. you&#039;re not special. You&#039;re not normal, just common. 

A common heterosexual, a common bigot.

Maybe someday you&#039;ll look yourslef in the mirror and wonder why you ever thought that hating a whole group of people you don&#039;t know and know nothing about qualifies you as a decent human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>el rose: &#8220;YOu are 2 men or 2 women who want to be given the same rights and privledges as heterosexuals but you are not heterosexuals. &#8221;</p>
<p>thanks for clairfying. It is truly all aobut prejudice for you, isn&#8217;t it? &#8220;You just want the same rights and privileges as (white people) (Christians)(English speakers)(Men)&#8230; but you&#8217;re not blah blahblah.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about the myth of heterosexual superiority in service to the reality of heterosexual privilege to enforce the myth of heterosexual hegemony.</p>
<p>honey, you&#8217;re just heterosexual. you&#8217;re not special. You&#8217;re not normal, just common. </p>
<p>A common heterosexual, a common bigot.</p>
<p>Maybe someday you&#8217;ll look yourslef in the mirror and wonder why you ever thought that hating a whole group of people you don&#8217;t know and know nothing about qualifies you as a decent human being.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ McFisty</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ McFisty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Offensive, self-aggrandizing, and wrong all the in the same comment! That&#039;s truly worthy of some prize.

I&#039;m really surprised heterosexuals suddenly got this lock on monogamy--when&#039;d that happen, and hets also suddenly established that as the exclusive claim to marriage. Guess that teevee show about Het Swinging is 100% whole cloth fabrication.

And what does &quot;do not share same bodies&quot; mean?

I wouldn&#039;t get hung up on similarities being exclusive locks on marriage...millions of dollars have been made on books written about &lt;b&gt;dis&lt;/b&gt;similarities. By your statements about &quot;having the same ____&quot; men and women shouldn&#039;t be allowed to marry.

I mean, at least I can share my partner&#039;s clothing and not feel ill-fittingly uncomfortable. We&#039;re similar in body type. That much is the same...can we get married, now, and when do we get to vote on yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Offensive, self-aggrandizing, and wrong all the in the same comment! That&#8217;s truly worthy of some prize.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really surprised heterosexuals suddenly got this lock on monogamy&#8211;when&#8217;d that happen, and hets also suddenly established that as the exclusive claim to marriage. Guess that teevee show about Het Swinging is 100% whole cloth fabrication.</p>
<p>And what does &#8220;do not share same bodies&#8221; mean?</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t get hung up on similarities being exclusive locks on marriage&#8230;millions of dollars have been made on books written about <b>dis</b>similarities. By your statements about &#8220;having the same ____&#8221; men and women shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to marry.</p>
<p>I mean, at least I can share my partner&#8217;s clothing and not feel ill-fittingly uncomfortable. We&#8217;re similar in body type. That much is the same&#8230;can we get married, now, and when do we get to vote on yours?</p>
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